<p>for the most part, all colleges are generally ranked by their graduate programs. schools obtain their fame through graduate studies and research. no one said that berkeley's top reputation is based soley on undergraduate studies.</p>
<p>the computer science department at berkeley is far from second-rate. in reality, it's actually very reputable. </p>
<p>and as far as the undergraduate "experience", berkeley offers a well-rounded experience that many undergrads adore. there are going to be unhappy students at any school, but honestly, i'm sure you have never even been to uc berkeley so i wouldn't comment on the experience.</p>
<p>really, i don't think you're jealous. i'm sure your university serves you just fine. i was only kidding around.</p>
<p>aussiexchange,
where in AU are you currently in school? Can't speak to UVA, but LA is hectic/intense ala' Sydney, whereas Berkeley is in the East Bay which is a bit more provincial ala' Melbourne. Although San Francisco is urban, it is not quite the sprawl of LA. Like Melbourne and Sydney, the public transport is pretty much c**p in both LA and SF.
(Just guessing, but if you are in Adelaide, UVA may be the way to go).</p>
<p>You may also think about what areas you may want to visit while you are here. Choose UVA if you are intrigued by the East Coast, UCLA or CAL if California is a draw.</p>
<p>But if you don't have a car, it's a b*tch to get around LA. It's not worth to buy a car just for 6 months. Rental isn't cheap either in the weekend (unless you are flilthy rich and don't care). I don't even know if you can drive with a Australian license. If you can't get around easily, you'd feel kinda stuck and limited in terms of things to do.</p>
<p>The good thing about Berkeley is you can pretty much be on your own the very first day and explore Berkeley/San Francisco conveniently and easily without a car. You'd feel there's more to do.</p>
<p>OMG - this thread's gonna go on forever very repetitively because of dueling alum/students - don't you think everything has already been said about each that can be said? or are we just chest-thumping now?</p>
<p>I am just wondering how much more different stuff there is to say about this topic. Don't you think she's gotten the point by now?
Aussiechange?</p>
<p>UVA would be my choice for a history major. UCLA and UCB are great schools but UVA is closer to some of the most amazing history sites in America, and the history program benefits accordingly. As the figures I gave above showed, UVA also has a larger number of history majors.</p>