<p>What are an accepted BFA MT students’ average stats? Can anyone shed some light?</p>
<p>I doubt that anyone is going to be able to come up with that information for you. Do you mean their H.S. class rank and ACT/SAT scores? Or, do you have in mind the sort of training and resumes CCM students have?</p>
<p>Just as at all universities, CCM students do have to meet the academic standards of the university as a whole. You can find the academic stats for the U. of Cincinnati as a whole in many sources. One example would be U.S. News and World Reports. CCM does not require students to pass academic muster before being allowed to audition, as is the case at the U. of Michigan. To be accepted to the CCM MT program, the big hurdle is giving a successful audition. However, it is very unlikely that a student with very poor grades and very low SAT scores would be admitted, no matter how wonderful the audition. That said, CCM will accept a student who is not an academic standout whereas NYU and U.M. will not.</p>
<p>I apologize for being a bit vague, but thanks for being so nice and trying to answer :)! I did mean SAT/ACT scores and or GPA's. I was just wondering, with all the talent on this board, where everyone's academic ability ranks. There seems more information about this for schools like UMich and NYU, but not so much for CCM, CMU etc., specifically for the BFA MT students.</p>
<p>MTGrls
I think there is less information because as dancersmom suggested CCM does not pre-screen on academics, thus they have more flexibility in who they will accept academically. I would guess that if you contacted the admissions or advising office for CCM they could give you an idea of what the college averages are as compared to UC as a whole. They may or may not be able to provide information about a specific program. I know the university keeps track of all this data and provides it to each of the colleges, since I work in another college at UC. This system gives each college and even each program in a college flexibility in thei admissions process.</p>
<p>As a UC employee I can tell you that The University of Cincinnai is not considered a "challenging" institution to get into, as a large part of its missions is to provide college access to first generation university students.</p>
<p>I can only tell you about my s and I know there are several of the MT kids accepted this year with the same type of academic stats. He is in the top 5% of his class (class size 380). He has a 30 ACT score and a 2290 SAT. He has lots of EC, was vice president of senior class, president of drama,honor society,history honor society,spanish honor society. He loves academics and I know from the kids he competed with for the Cinncinatus Scholarship that CCM is considered by many as a top academic "challenging" university despite what keeping calm posted. The 1500 kids competing for this scholarship were the "cream of the crop" academically. And they all wanted to go to UC. I am also very proud to say S was awarded 1 of the 10 "full ride" scholarships. I apologize if it appears as boasting but we are just so incredibly proud of him. </p>
<p>keeping calm: Are you an employee of the university in an academic capacity?</p>
<p>Yes, I am a full time faculty member in a different college at UC. I have judged at many of the Cincinnatus scholoarship competitions and it is a joy to watch these students work. They truly are the cream of the crop since to be invited to the competition you must meet certain criteria. I am not bashing my own institution, they have several programs and degrees ranked in the top of the country, however it is not as academically competitive to get into as many other large universities, or even other universities in the state of Ohio. It has an excellent honors program with many, many outstanding students in it, however as an urban University it also has an access focus, so that students in the top 50% of their class (and in some cases lower) with very average ACT/SAT are not excluded. I believe this is a good thing, having the top students as well as providing and suporting first generation students.</p>
<p>I guess i was responding to MTgirls question, although I have no idea how she intended it, to suggest that it does not require students to be the top academic graduates in their school. Some are and some are not.</p>
<p>MTboymom- you should be amazingly proud of your son to win a Cincinnatus scholarship, it is a highly competitive scholarship that requires more of students than just strong academics. He must really be a superior person.</p>
<p>My child has similar academic qualifications and a great love for academics. Please be cautious about this program if your child is inspired by in-depth study directed by highly trained, supportive faculty.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for your input. I am sorry for causing confusion as to how I intended my post. I really just meant it how I posted is and was merely curious what the typical admitted BFA MT student's HS academic stats were at CCM's highly regarded and competitive conservatory program. It did not even enter my train of thought that it does not require students to be the top academic graduates in their schools. Since I could not find much information about stats on this forum (you will find a lot on other college discussions) I thought I'd ask since everyone is always so forthcoming with information.
dkdmusic - I am not sure what you meant though that we had to be "cautious about this program if one's child is inspired by in depth study etc....".
It is my understanding the CCM's program is exceptional and in fact very, very high on my D "wish list", can you please elaborate?</p>
<p>If you have an average G.P.A. and a decent test score, but meet all the academic requirements for the conservatory can you still be admitted?</p>
<p>MTBOYMOM -
Boasting just part of the what we parents do now isn't it? I would be cautious -- especially in this forum -- to speak of monetary/scholarship affairs though. For one, it may come of disingenuous, two, it is probably disrespectful to other families, most of whom have not had the same opportunities as your son, or similar accolades. "Full-ride" when spoken of in a large circle, will either make one feel a part of something special, or NOT part of that special and elite group. That bias can be predudicial. I certainly offer you and your family sincere congratulations --- I would be wary of the "boasting" --- especially in this forum, or in the "circle" of college scholarship conversations.</p>
<p>nates asks, "If you have an average G.P.A. and a decent test score, but meet all the academic requirements for the conservatory can you still be admitted?"</p>
<p>Moreover, Keepingcalm notes,"however it (being UC) is not as academically competitive to get into as many other large universities, or even other universities in the state of Ohio"</p>
<p>Response: My daughter attends UC,although at DAAP, and she had a guy who got into CCM from our high school. First UC may seem like one school,but admission wise, it is quite varied. Some schools, as noted above, aren't that hard to get into. Some, like DAAP, have entrance requirements equal to many of the top state and private schools. My daughter, for example, turned down Carnegie Mellon for DAAP. You can't just make a carte blanche statement that UC isn't that competitive for admission, and I am surprised that Keepingcalm doesn't know better.</p>
<p>Second at CCM, they are VERY audition oriented. We had a kid who graduated from our high school in Maryland. Although our high school is considered one of the top high schools not only in Maryland but in the US, this kid was NOT an academic standout. In fact, his academic credentials were weak. I would be surprised if he even had a 3.0 in high school. He did, however, have one of the best male voices that our high school has ever had, which says a lot for a high school known to have surperlative musical and theatrical performances. He was just an outstanding performer.He also had great musical credentials being in all state honors choir and many other vocal honors. He even was a top player on our football team ,which made him an interesting prospect for admission.He did get admitted to CCM on a full ride too,which clearly shows that if you have enormous talent, you won't need strong academic credentials. </p>
<p>As a final note, CCM is tough and demanding. He did struggle and may have even flunked out. He did, however, get his act together, and it is my understanding that he will graduate this year.</p>