<p>I suggest you not listen to flowerhead and apply anyway. You might be pleasantly surprised. People on CC are too harsh about chancing people; there’s so many other factors that can’t be posted on some random internet board. That attitude certainly discouraged me from applying to more “selective” schools.</p>
<p>Oh, I almost always think one should apply. An application fee is a small price to pay for the chance of an acceptance, even if small. I’m just counseling the OP not to have his/her hopes up.</p>
<p>But, from the perspective of someone who did admissions at a top private, a 3.38 was very low. If the application made it to my desk, I’d have to look for something super compelling elsewhere. As the GPA goes lower, the degree of compellingness needed increases. Things get pretty tough in the 3.38 range, especially when you’re dealing with applicants in the 3.7 range, many of whom originate from other top schools (so don’t think you’re competition is limited to the 4.0s from community college or from the local city/state college).</p>
<p>Chances for admission to Cornell are best assessed by college, here are the most recent published transfer admission statistics:</p>
<p><a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000156.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000156.pdf</a></p>
<p>One confounding issue is that there are many so-called “guaranteed transfers”, people who were in effect granted delayed admission upon freshman application subject to meeting certain conditions at their initial college. The contract colleges are the most active in issuing guaranteed transfers, only a few have been documented here for CAS. There are also internal transfers mixed in to these statistics. A recent post indicated that of the 61 Hum Ec transfer acceptances, only 19 were not either internal transfers or guaranteed transfers.That changes its actual admissions selectivity profile for external applicants somewhat dramatically.</p>
<p>I’ve no idea what transfer admit %s are like at other particular colleges of multi-college universities, such as Penn CAS (without confounded with Wharton), Penn Nursing, Columbia General Studies. If someone (flowerhead?) has this data broken out by college for these other universities they should please post it. Undoubtedly there are some colleges that are more difficult or even impossible to transfer into- a number of which are in the Ivy league- and many other colleges where transfer admission odds are easier. The data is what it is. If only it is available. Otherwise, people are just talking out of their rear.</p>
<p>monydad:</p>
<p>Regardless of whether we’re talking about Penn CAS or Penn Wharton, it is doubtless that the former is most definitely not a “backdoor” into Penn. Regarding Penn Nursing, I think the number of students applying there to be so negligible as to avoid calling that a backdoor too.</p>
<p>Between Columbia College and the Columbia School of General Studies, they’re not even in the same universe: The former is the degree program that most Columbia freshmen entire into for their Columbia bachelors. The latter is a program that is designed for non-traditional students, and–I believe–issues a different diploma. Everyone knows it’s substantially easier to get into, just like the Harvard Extension School.</p>
<p>But yes, if we just look at Penn CAS and Wharton, Columbia College and SEAS, Brown and Dartmouth, and compare their admit rates to the more selective schools at Cornell, we’d quickly see that the former are still more selective.</p>
<p>Arguably, those admitted students are even more special snowflakes.</p>
<p>But at the end of the day, who really cares? They’re all great schools. I don’t know why people have to get so worked up over selectivity, except as to stroke their own egos.</p>
<p>Whether or not a particular college is or is not more selective than another , applicants may benefit from posting of data so they can see for themselves and note the extent of the differences, rather than relying on assertions by people they don’t know. If such people cannot post this data, one may infer that they have not seen it themselves. </p>
<p>So if you have seen transfer admit statistics, by college, to substantiate your assertions, please post them for benefit of others. </p>
<p>When the data is posted,this may well show that other particular colleges of interest to a particular applicant are more difficult to transfer to than the college of interest at Cornell is. And will also indicate the extent of this difference. To me in a number of cases the likely results seem obvious, in a couple others I think the data might be interesting to see. </p>
<p>But all would benefit from seeing applicable data. For example an engineering transfer would not want Columbia College, Columbia General Studies, Penn Wharton, or Penn Nursing data obfuscating data pertaining to his/ her actual transfer admit odds.</p>
<p>The Cornell data is posted above, by college. With, unfortunately, the previously cited challenges for interpretation due to Guaranteed Transfers & Internal transfers.
However hopefully it is of some value for people interested in transferring to a particular college there, rather than looking at pointless amalgamation of all its colleges.</p>
<p>When data is posted no more rhetoric is necessary.</p>
<p>monydad how do you know that the GT’s are counted in these numbers because I don’t think they are considered applicants since they are automatically admitted if they meet certain requirements.</p>
<p>What about an expected college GPA of around 3.75 with 40 AP credits and 57 in progress (on a quarter scale) with poli. sci. major?</p>
<p>(College: UCSB, H.S. GPA: 3.66, 12th overall in California Academic Decathlon- 1st in history and interview, ACT: 32, SAT: 1950, all 4s and 5s in 8 APs, and lots of other community service and ECs (varsity golf, drama, internships, etc.)</p>