<p>How do they compare?</p>
<p>To expand on the topic title, I’m asking about the median starting salary for students who obtain B.S. degrees in EE or CS among the schools listed. I’ve heard that MIT grads, on average, earn the most, and am not surprised; however, what about the other two California schools?</p>
<p>Please cite all sources.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>starting salary isn't the biggest concern for ee students, it's if they can even find a job right now or not.</p>
<p>EECS sucks. You have to work harder than the pre-meds, and in the end you'll make less than half the money they make.</p>
<p>Save your smarts. Be a lawyer/doctor/businessman.
Engineering is yesterday's degree. I feel so hypocritical in saying this because my major is EECS. </p>
<p>Meh.</p>
<p>A lot of EECS majors end up getting JD's in IP or MBAs. I happen to think that engineering is an excellent undergraduate degree,as it says to the world that you have an important skill set.</p>
<p>From what I have seen in Silicon Valley, Berkeley engineers make the same starting salary as MIT, Stanfurd,etc... if not slightly more at the beginning level because of Berkeley's emphasis on application. </p>
<p>The major difference would be the higher number of girls (Berkeley engineering has the highest % of girls out of any engineering school) and some of them are pretty damm cute. Also, EECS has a good reputation at Cal, so the pimping (if u have time for it) is definitely more possible if u are that rare charismatic EECS type like Gene Kahn was.</p>
<p>whose gene kahn</p>
<p>they passed out an information booklet during welcome week last year for engineers, and eecs was at the top with the avg starting salary of 55K</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnutella.com/news/5039%5B/url%5D">http://www.gnutella.com/news/5039</a></p>
<p>Gene Kan - pioneer in the P2P file sharing industry. Rare combination of engineering prowess and charisma. </p>
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Kan graduated from the University of California at Berkeley in 1997, with degrees in electrical engineering and computer science.
In moments not dedicated to coding, Kan was an aficionado of fast cars and street racing. He was also working on several new projects, including a peer-to-peer content distribution system dubbed Gnougat and a new technology for streaming MP3s.
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<p>nowdays undergrad major isnt that big of a deal. u need grad degree to make 100k salary..</p>
<p>even if you have a graduate degree you won't be making 100k that easily now.</p>
<p>"You have to work harder than the pre-meds, and in the end you'll make less than half the money they make."</p>
<p>I'm not sure this is true. Perhaps at the undergraduate level, the workload of engineering students is greater than that of pre-med students. However, while a B.S. degree may suffice for low-level jobs in the tech industry, to become a doctor (for the cash to really flow in), getting an M.D. means going through med school, and we've all heard how difficult that is.</p>
<p>yeah, and first you need to make yourself competitive enough to get into med school...</p>
<p>Ask and ye shall receive:</p>
<p>In 2003 (the latest year info is available), EECS BS graduates got an average of about 56k. </p>
<p>In 2003, MIT EECS SB graduates got an average of about 59k (a weighted average of MIT course 6, course 6-1, course 6-2, and course 6-3) </p>
<p>Of course, this simple analysis is unfair to MIT, for the simple fact that the EECS program at MIT runs the MEng (Master's of Engineering) program which the better MIT EECS undergraduate students enter. Generally, if you go to MIT and major in EECS and do decently, you will probably be offered admission to the MEng program, and most students who are offered admission take it. Hence, when you are looking at the bachelor's degree MIT EECS students, you are generally looking at disproportionately lower-ranked EECS students. The MEng program skims the cream off the top. What we really should be looking at is a blend of the salaries of all the MIT bachelor's and MEng EECS students. </p>
<p>{At the risk of digressing,Berkeley has no such equivalent program in EECS to the MEng at MIT, and I think Berkeley really should. If you do undergrad EECS at Berkeley and you want to get a master's degree, you have to apply to the EECS department just like any other regular graduate student candidate, which means you gotta take the GRE, get prof rec's, write a statement of purpose, pay the application fee, and all that rigamorole. Applying to the MEng EECS program at MIT is a simple matter of completing a simple checklist after junior year that shows your EECS grades. No GRE. No app fee. No recs. Basically, no nothing. I think Berkeley would benefit from offering a simple way for its top EECS undergrads to apply to the EECS master's degree program}.</p>