<p>does the average preson realize cornell is an "Ivey League" School. It seems to be like maybe most do not. I think Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and maybe Dartmouth are synonymous with the Ivey League. But i think the average perosn might not realize that Brown and Cornell are as well. is that a fair assessment?</p>
<p>I think most people know that Cornell and Brown are Ivies....</p>
<p>The Ivy league is an athletic conference formed in 1956; sure, they're all good schools, but Stanford, Chicago, Cal Tech/MIT, and the Swarthmores/Wms/Amhersts are all better than Cornell. Don't get fixated on an Ivy league-only education when you can do just as good or better one at a quasi-Ivy League school.</p>
<p>I would bet only 3 of ten people nationally can name all 8 Ivy league schools. More in the Northeast; less in South and west. Ask your teachers or guidance counselors. You will be surprised.</p>
<p>I agree with doctorb, very few recognize cornell/brown and alot of times dartmouth as ivies.</p>
<p>I know what you're talking about! Many people actually think Duke is an "Ivy", :D! Must be the basketball, I don't know why anyone would think such a thing otherwise. <em>rollseyes</em></p>
<p>People are like, "LOL, you didn't get into Cornell. That school must have some sort of 'syndrome' cuz it's not like it's an Ivy or anything like that!" :-p</p>
<p>We, on CollegeConfidential, know the truth however!</p>
<p>To a certain extent, I think UPenn could be added to that list, hyakku, seeing how even in NJ, I find lots of people think it's a state university of Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>I think the average person would spell it I-V-Y.</p>
<p>I would peg it closer to 1 out of 10 being able to name all eight Ivies (and only those "Ivies"). Too many people believe that local LAC, State U or big name non-Ivies (Stanford, Duke) are Ivies because of over inflated reputations in the area and because they think of Ivy League as an adjective not an actual entity (As in "Oh man you'll never get into Geneseo- its an Ivy is so tough to get into!")</p>
<p>i dont think average people know what the cornell is...or heck dartmouth, columbia, brown, upenn either...</p>
<p>Even 1 out of 10 is likely too high. Maybe if they were allowed 2-3 wrong guesses (to say schools like Stanford and MIT), but getting 8 right without adding any extras would be very rare.</p>
<p>most respected school here in my school sacramento,ca
harvard, stanford, berkeley,mit, and yale..</p>
<p>I would go even lower, and peg it at around 2%, MAX, who can name all eight Ivy League schools.</p>
<p>so you care that cornell isnt recognized as part of an athletic conference?</p>
<p>gg</p>
<p>OP: There are a lot of folks on the West Coast who think Stanford is an Ivy League school. :) Why would you care?</p>
<p>From what I've seen, many on CC would be surprised how "regional" knowledge of colleges and universities can be in the US. For example, when my class from Princeton went to Yellowstone N.P. for a 10-day scientific expedition which counted as our lab component, the park rangers at the visitor's center asked us what university we were from. When we told them, the rangers had no knowledge of the school whatsoever, and we're talking about an internationally recognized school here. </p>
<p>Its not just UPenn and Cornell that suffer in this regard. You have to recognize that a person with average college awareness (hint: not College Confidential members), know colleges and reputations through their friends, colleagues at work, etc. and not as much through national renown, with the exception of Harvard. </p>
<p>For example, people in my area (Chicagoland) will ooh and aah at Notre Dame or Northwestern, but say you got into Dartmouth, Columbia, or Virginia, and you might check in a mirror make sure you didn't turn into a Martian overnight.
Its just a fact of life that can easily ignored.</p>
<p>i agree about the regional thing. Then again, Cornell's sheer size may give it a bit of an edge when it comes to that whole national recognition thing. Still, it doesn't matter. Those who need to know that Cornell is an Ivy will know; even so, they just need to know it's a top-15 school, the whole Ivy thing really shouldn't make a difference. </p>
<p>Besides, when people ask me where I go to college, I'd much rather have a subtle reaction where they clearly don't know my school. I'd prefer to be judged on my character or personality than just where I enrolled for college - I especially hate the "oh Cornell, so you must be brilliant" type of reactions, they're just awkward.</p>
<p>from my little corner of the world, Cornell is much better known that Dartmouth, Columbia or Brown; probably due to its size, and strong sciences, the latter giving Cornell worldwide recognition. At my D's HS today, she said that the Cornell forum was packed with kids, but another excellent NE uni had less than 10 kids show up.</p>
<p>My brother was telling me that he was watching a game show where the final question to win $500,000 was to name four of the eight Ivy League schools. The guy named three, paused then said Colgate and lost. </p>
<p>Very few people know or care which schools are in the Ivy League and as gomestar alludes to above going to an "Ivy League" school is not as important as going to a top school and a top school that fits you for that matter. Prestige for prestige's sake is pretty superficial and meaningless if it doesn't provide you with anything tangible. I know when I was applying to schools that I kind of liked that not everyone had heard of Dartmouth even though I knew it was a good school that I would like.</p>
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<p>I agree with this guess. It would be interesting to put this to the test with a scientifically designed poll.</p>