<p>Sam:</p>
<p>The 36 for Georgia Tech is also for ten years. The relative comparison is the same.</p>
<p>Actually, if you look at the lists I've posted, I've included the exact formula: 10 years of PhDs from the NSF database per 1000 undergrads of current enrollment. Obviously, the per year numbers are going to be small. </p>
<p>I hope you didn't think that getting PhDs is a real common occurrence. If so, then these lists would be valuable in that regard, too.</p>
<p>BTW, if you want raw totals, without regard to size of the school, here are the total PhDs from each of the first 25 undergrad college for the same ten year period:</p>
<p>736 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
657 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
628 University of California-Berkeley
498 Pennsylvania State U, Main Campus
493 Cornell University, All Campuses
476 Purdue University, Main Campus
454 University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
408 Georgia Institute of Technology, Main Campus
394 Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State Univ
367 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
346 University of Texas at Austin
327 Texas A&M University Main Campus
314 University of Wisconsin-Madison
307 University of Minnesota - Twin Cities
273 University of Florida
269 North Carolina State University at Raleigh
264 Carnegie Mellon University
252 Ohio State University, Main Campus
237 University of Maryland at College Park
234 Iowa State University
232 University of California-Los Angeles
227 Brigham Young University, Main Campus
226 University of Washington - Seattle
224 California Institute of Technology
221 Rutgers the State Univ of NJ New Brunswick</p>
<p>I guess that's for engineering, not econ, right?</p>
<p>Anyway, I personally wouldn't place too much importance on PhDs production. First of all, PhDs programs aren't that hard to enter if some doesn't fixated on only the top ranked ones. The 2nd/3rd tier schools are actually trying to get people to study there and we do have shortage of Americans doing PhDs in science/math/engineering/econ! Otherwise, we wouldn't be seeing so many internationals! When I got my acceptance letter from various MS programs, JHU gave me half scholarship even I didn't inquire about it and I was an international student. LOL!</p>
<p>PhD production is even less important for economics. for many schools such as princeton where an undergraduate business school is nonexistent, students pursue economics in order to have a stable foundation for a future MBA program. many schools are like this so seeing the number of economics phd candidates produced really shows nada.</p>
<p>Right. That list above is for engineering, which actually produces large numbers of PhDs. Economics PhDs are much rarer. There are only 11 undergrad schools in the US that produced 50 or more Econ. PhDs over that 10-year period from 1994-2003:</p>
<p>115 Harvard University
104 University of California-Berkeley
70 Stanford University
67 Cornell University, All Campuses
63 Yale University
63 University of Pennsylvania
63 University of Wisconsin-Madison
62 University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
58 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
57 Swarthmore College
53 Princeton University</p>
<p>PhDs are obviously more common in engineering and the sciences because of the research career tracks in those fields. That's why the really top tech schools (MIT, CalTech, Harvey Mudd, etc.) tend to fall at or near the top of the overall PhD production.</p>
<p>BTW, these raw totals above illustrate the problem of not applying a per capita correction. Obviously, Stanford producing 70 Econ PhDs from 7000 undergrads is different than Wisconsin producing a similar number from a much larger student population.</p>
<p>I disagree that the list shows nothing about Princeton. The Econ PhD lists actually show clearly that Princeton is a leader in producing academic economists -- future professors, World Bank poo-pahs, etc.</p>
<p>If you adjust for class sizes (i.e. Cornell producing something like 5 times the number of graduates as Princeton), the list would change, and you would see more from smaller schools known for Econ, such as U.Chicago and Princeton.</p>
<p>To add to your deliberations: the European Union has recently produced a 200 page pdf on 'mapping excellence in economics' which gives the low down on European econ depts, using a mass of different performance indicators - some of them mentioning US universities and global standings.</p>
<p>Predictably LSE comes out as best outside the States, and UK universities dominate in this field in Europe, according to the document..</p>
<p>You can find it if you google the key words: 'mapping excellence in economics EU' - you then need to do a bit of scrolling (sorry I'm too lazy to hunt for the precise web address...</p>