AZN Invasion into the IVIES

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Applying to: Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, UPENN, Yale.
Others: Boston C, Georgetown, Northwestern, Washington U in St. Louis.</p>

<pre><code> Stats
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<p>SAT: 2200 (CR:740, M:770, W 690)
SAT2: Language 800, Math2c 800, took World History in Dec. expecting 650.
GPA: 3.7-3.8 unweighted.</p>

<p>Im a US citizen, but ethnically Korean.</p>

<p>I am planning to major in International Business or International Economics.</p>

<pre><code> My ECs (the 7 I put in the commonapp
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<li>School Newspaper and yearbook Editor-in-Cheif</li>
<li>Community Service planner and recruiter.</li>
<li>Varsity Basketball Captain. The most successful team in school’s history.</li>
<li>Model United Nations (2 years)</li>
<li>Church Youth Groups. Worship leader (guitar)</li>
<li>Music Club</li>
<li><p>National English Honor Society</p>

<pre><code> My Hook
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<p>I lived in 4 different countries during grades 9-12. (alot of moving)
Lived in China when I was young.
I can speak Korean, Chinese, and English fluently.</p></li>
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<p>I work for my uncle, who does major stocks
And my recommendations were quite well written.
The letters basically said: good personality, caring, and humorous.</p>

<p>What are my chances? At least worth applying to right?
Which IVIES do I have a really good chance at?</p>

<p>Thanks for the help guys.</p>

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<p>I'd say you have a shot at Cornell.</p>

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<p>Harvard, Yale, Princeton - definite reach because of lack of a good hook
Brown, Dartmouth, Penn - reach
Others - Match</p>

<p>You need something to help you stand out.</p>

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<p>Princeton, Harvard, Yale - reach
Penn, Dartmouth - low reach
Brown - high match
Everything else - safety ~ match</p>

<p>If you get lucky, you'll get into one of HYP, one or two of Penn, Dartmouth, and Brown, and in everywhere else. Good luck.</p>

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<p>Class rank?</p>

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<p>You'll have a good to very good chance at the lower ivies, but Yale, UPenn, Princeton are definately reaches.</p>

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<ol>
<li>Varsity Basketball Captain. The most successful team in school's history.</li>
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<p>pls dont tell me u wrote that it is the most successful team in school;s history cus yur captain. cus that just sounds really obnoxious (even if it may be true)</p>

<p>brown, harvard, princeton, yale, upenn, dartmouth = reach due to lack of real hook and unique ecs</p>

<p>Northwestern, WUStL = high match/match
Georgetown = match
BC = in</p>

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<p>i also hate how people consider dartmouth, upenn, browna nd such the "lower ivies" in comparison to HYP</p>

<p>because if it were not for the ranking system employed by US News and other magazines, there would be no real basis of comparison between the colleges</p>

<p>bcause each is unique in their own way..</p>

<p>u really cant say that brown's no core curriculum is comparable to yale's distribution requirements and dartmouth's block system?</p>

<p>they may not have a lower acceptance rate, or a higher # of applicants, but by no means are they "lower ivys"</p>

<p>and to refer to coolness: no ivy is a match. cus acceptances are really unpredictable</p>

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<p>Do I have a shot at the non-ivies tho?
I'd be nice to go to Gtown, Nwestern, or Boston.
we dont rank but probably 5%.
lol, sorrry about the most sucessful basketball team thing. We just won the international schools of China tournament for the first time. so...</p>

<p>anyone else?</p>

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<p>
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i also hate how people consider dartmouth, upenn, browna nd such the "lower ivies" in comparison to HYP

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<p>Stronger applicants go to HYP than Dartmouth and the others. Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are simply better schools academically. There is no room for debate.</p>

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<p>sup:</p>

<p>"Stronger applicants go to HYP than Dartmouth and the others. Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are simply better schools academically. There is no room for debate."</p>

<p>This is a very ignorant and blanketing statement. In truth, there is actually MUCH room for debate. One could argue that Harvards academics are somewhat lacking because not many professors teach undergrads, and when they do, they aren't very involved or caring. (This has been stated by Harvard students, and was mention in the Harvard Crimson).</p>

<p>Of course, I don't mean to say that Harvard is a "lower Ivy" or worse than any others. These schools are simply different. Keep in mind that the reason why HYP are the "top" Ivies by PERCEPTION is generally because of various random factors such as age. For example, Harvard and Yale were some of the first insititutions to be established in America; tradition and generations of cultural conditioning have made them famous and prestigous.</p>

<p>Another thing for example that has contributed to Harvards prestige:</p>

<p>The Harvard Crimson and the Journalism programs at Harvard have churned out many prevalent journalists in many famous papers today. When these writers want to refer to a scientist, doctor or source from a prestigous institution, which you think they'd chose? Their alma mater. Studies have shown that Over decades influential journalists who have gone to Harvard have promoted the prestige and presence of their alma mater in their writings.</p>

<p>Remember societal perception is just that: perception. Everyone once though the world was flat, but that didn't mean it was true.</p>

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<p>Interesting argument. I'll keep that in mind</p>

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<p>I think everything is a reach. You are not getting into any of the ivies you listed. You have a very good chance at Cornell, Gerogetown, Northwestern and Boston though.</p>

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<p>Not the case. While Ivies are indeed hard to get into, I don't think that he will surely get rejected/waitlisted from all of them. I imagine and would bet he would likely get into at least one or two.</p>

<p>He has solid scores (2200 and 2 800's on subject tests)</p>

<p>Also he has strong EC's. Editor-in-Chief of both newspaper and yearbook, and Captain of Varsity Basketball Team? Those two in themselves are a rare combo. These are especially impressive considering he has moved from place to place throughout 9-12, and didn't have the same advantages that most people have in staying at one school and establishing relationships/presence in clubs to ensure a leadership position.</p>

<p>A very strong and solid candidate.</p>

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<p>i'd say you have good chances at everywhere except HYP ( which is unpredictable)</p>

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<p>Update: World History Sat2 was 690.</p>

<p>Anyone else?</p>

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<p>applying rd?reject/waitlist everywhere.ethnicity kills you in my opinion.</p>

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<p>Im doin RD</p>

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<p>Can you tell us what your essays were about? It may offer you a better chance, becuase we also don't know if you offered a neat trait or quirk or something special that makes you stand out.</p>

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<p>I've written about how I moved quite a bit.
From the 6th grade to the 11th grade, I have moved every year.
and three were overseas.
Usa to China. China to Usa. Usa to Taiwan. Taiwan to China.
The school in China were in different locations also.
(I'm Korean by the way, not Chinese.)
My supplement essay is about how my physics teacher broke my cheek bone, so i had to fly to Korea to get surgury
The essays are, in my opinion, pretty well written and show my personality pretty well.</p>