<p>i want to get a JD/MBA dual degree. I realize a lot of people that get into top b-schools have prior work experience in a prominent job. </p>
<p>How hard is it to get into b-school right after my graduating?</p>
<p>From what i've learned VERY HARD</p>
<p>If you're talking about a top program, quite difficult. If you're talking about a no-name program, still not easy, but easier.</p>
<p>Well, i spoke with a Darden(UVA) school rep and she said something like this: The classes you take at b-school are based around discussions of your past work experience, and she said that 99% of the class has been in the work force. When you think about that it really wouldn't make sense to attend B-school without experience in the business world, considering some of the classes rely on discussions of your past experience. Not all business schools will be this way, but i believe Darden is.</p>
<p>thanks for clearing that up...</p>
<p>but how do people get a JD/MBA?</p>
<p>If you're talking about a JD/MBA from a top school, they usually work and then decide to go back to school.</p>
<p>It is difficult to get into an MBA program directly out of undergrad. However, I go to UCLA Anderson and judging from how old the JD/MBA students are, they probably went right into law school after college, did a year or two of that, and then got in to the MBA program. So it's not as unusual if you go the JD/MBA route. But in my class of 330, there are only 2 people that I know of that went straight from undergrad to the MBA program.</p>
<p>If you tutor me, and if I score at least a 750 on the GMAT, I will give you $10,000. This is no joke.</p>
<ul>
<li> Patricia Chen</li>
<li> (813) 484-1816</li>
<li> <a href="mailto:mtgasiangirl_harvard@yahoo.com">mtgasiangirl_harvard@yahoo.com</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Greetings!!!</p>
<p>I need you to come tutor me for the GMAT (Graduate Management Admission Test). I am located in Tampa, Florida. My telephone number is: (813) 451-****. Basically, what I need is a very good GMAT instructor who has taken the real test no more than a year ago with a score of 720 or above.</p>
<p>If this is you, then read on </p>
<p>I will pay you tutor me. This is how it works: You first tutor me for free until I take the real GMAT. If I score above a 650, you get $1,000 for all your trouble. But, if I score above a 700, you get $5,000. Finally, heres the best part: If I score above a 750, you get $10,000. I am talking about cash, pure cash, coming out of my pocket for you to tutor me.</p>
<p>If you are excited so far, then read on </p>
<p>I agree to pay you to come to Tampa, Florida. I agree to pay for the hotel and flight accommodations. I agree to pick you up in a limo, or my brand new 2005 Camry (your choice). You will then be escorted to your hotel room for preparation to tutor me the very next day. You will be served three meals a day. You will have breakfast, lunch, and dinner with me at really good fancy restaurants. No, I am not talking about McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell, but ten times better than that. You will enjoy for the next few weeks the hotel stay, and the food that I pay. </p>
<p>What happens after you tutor me </p>
<p>When I see my unofficial score for the GMAT, I will then decide how much to pay you in cold cash. Then, you will be flying back home to tell all your friends about how much money you have made by tutoring me.</p>
<p>Have a nice weekend!</p>
<p>Thank you!!!</p>
<ul>
<li> Patricia Chen</li>
<li> (813) 484-1816</li>
<li> <a href="mailto:mtgasiangirl_harvard@yahoo.com">mtgasiangirl_harvard@yahoo.com</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Email me if interested.</p>
<p>P.S. If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!</p>
<p>Email me if interested in this instead.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>take the test for you?</p>
<p>isn't the above bordering on the illegal? sounds very fishy to me...</p>
<p>If you tutor me, and if I score at least a 750 on the GMAT, I will give you $10,000. This is no joke.</p>
<ul>
<li><p>Patricia Chen</p></li>
<li><p>(813) 484-1816</p></li>
<li><p>Email: <a href="mailto:magicauctions123@yahoo.com">magicauctions123@yahoo.com</a></p></li>
</ul>
<p>Greetings!!!</p>
<p>I need you to come tutor me for the GMAT (Graduate Management Admission Test). I am located in Tampa, Florida. My telephone number is: (813) 484-1816. Basically, what I need is a very good GMAT instructor who has taken the real test no more than a year ago with a score of 720 or above.</p>
<p>If this is you, then read on </p>
<p>I will pay you tutor me. This is how it works: You first tutor me for free until I take the real GMAT. If I score above a 650, you get $1,000 for all your trouble. But, if I score above a 700, you get $5,000. Finally, heres the best part: If I score above a 750, you get $10,000. I am talking about cash, pure cash, coming out of my pocket for you to tutor me.</p>
<p>If you are excited so far, then read on </p>
<p>I agree to pay you to come to Tampa, Florida. I agree to pay for the hotel and flight accommodations. I agree to pick you up in a limo, or my brand new 2005 Camry (your choice). You will then be escorted to your hotel room for preparation to tutor me the very next day. You will be served three meals a day. You will have breakfast, lunch, and dinner with me at really good fancy restaurants. No, I am not talking about McDonalds, Burger King, Taco Bell, but ten times better than that. You will enjoy for the next few weeks the hotel stay, and the food that I pay. </p>
<p>What happens after you tutor me </p>
<p>When I see my unofficial score for the GMAT, I will then decide how much to pay you in cold cash. Then, you will be flying back home to tell all your friends about how much money you have made by tutoring me.</p>
<p>Have a nice weekend!</p>
<p>Thank you!!!</p>
<ul>
<li>Patricia Chen</li>
<li>(813) 484-1816</li>
<li>Email: <a href="mailto:magicauctions123@yahoo.com">magicauctions123@yahoo.com</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Email me if interested.</p>
<p>P.S. If instead of going through the trouble to tutor me, if you take the GMAT for me and score a 650, 700, or 750, I will pay four times the amount mentioned above. This means you will get $4,000 for scoring a 650, $20,000 for scoring a 700, and $40,000 for scoring a 750. This is a quick way to make money for your helpfulness!</p>
<p>Email me if interested in this instead.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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How hard is it to get into b-school right after my graduating?
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not very easy at a top b-school </p>
<p>But I think the more interesting question would be ... how easy is it to get a prime job after b-school without real life work experience? Very-very tough ... employeers go to top schools expecting sharp students with a great school experience and 3-5 years of work experience ... it's an uphill battle to spin the lack of experience as a positive. (In other words if you were intereviewing two applicants ... same school, similar grades, similar smarts, one with no experience and one with 5 years experience before b-school who would you probably hire?</p>
<p>if it's difficult to get a job in business with and MBA but without job experience, wouldn't it be more difficult to get job experience fresh out of undergrad?</p>
<p>Not as hard as getting into a topflight MBA school without job experience. </p>
<p>I'll put it to you this way. Practically every undergrad program of any half-decent reputation has a career office whose very purpose is to help graduating seniors find jobs, and who coordinate campus recruiting for employers who want to hire these graduating seniors. However, none of the top MBA programs do any recruiting of seniors, nor is there an office whose purpose is to help those seniors get into MBA programs. Hence, simply from an infrastructural point of view, it is obviously easier to get a job than to get into a top MBA program.</p>
<p>Hi... The difference is that after undergrad you're applying for an entry level job, while after business school you are applying for mid level management where you need some work experience first.</p>
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Hi... The difference is that after undergrad you're applying for an entry level job, while after business school you are applying for mid level management where you need some work experience first.
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Bingo ... consulting firms and investment firms, for example, have analyst positions that are generally filled by undergrads (they don't need experience ... they need smarts and and a willingness to work hard) which are terrific experiences before B-school. In addition, having a front line job like a engineer or IT professional or management trainee also provides great experience before B-school. Most undergrads work after graduating ... there are lots of positions available for them ... and having experience in the work place is vital to learn at b-school and to contribute to others learning at b-school.</p>
<p>In addition to what 3togo said, I would add that you don't even need a 'great' job in order to get into a top B-school (although it obviously helps if you do). Even a 'regular' job can get you there as long as you maximize your opportunities. While every B-school has its share of former consultants, bankers, engineers, and management trainees, they also have their share of people who came from regular jobs. For example, at HBS and MITSloan, there are former cops, soldiers, nurses, etc. I know one guy who ended up working as a waiter at a restaurant after undergrad because he couldn't get any other job. He ended up working his way up to becoming shift manager and then got into B-school.</p>
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Even a 'regular' job can get you there as long as you maximize your opportunities.
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very true ... one of my better b-school friends entered b-school from a position in union management ... a little ironic; but he brought a TERRIFIC perspective to classroom discussions. The more perspectives the better ... perspectives built off experience.</p>
<p>I suggest working for a while before entering graduate studies. Your work experience may better inform your subsequent educational and career decisions. It may also make your graduate work more valuable and comprehensible to you.</p>
<p>I know several people who elected not to go back to get an MBA at all, because their initial career paths were going so well. I don't think they would change their decisions to this day.</p>
<p>When you do enter the workforce, it's nice to have the MBA card as an option if your initial career/ job choice does not go as you'd hoped. You won't have this valuable option to fall back on down the road if you've already used it before you even started working.</p>