backdoor way into UCSB

This is my annual post to pass along some advice to those who didn’t get in. An earlier thread about this has been locked so I rewrote it with updated links.

If UCSB was a top choice there is a “backdoor” way to get much of the experience of being a UCSB student. You can live right with the UCSB students, get a UCSB diploma, and spend 4 years enjoying the same social life, campus events, groups, etc. that UCSB students do. The only difference is that for a year or two you won’t be taking classes on the UCSB campus, and there’s even a partial way around that!

I’m posting this now so that you have time to think it over and investigate, since some of the deadlines are near. You should consider an appeal to UCSB as well, but the odds of this succeeding have historically been small. First off, don’t take it personally. They haven’t judged you and found you wanting. It’s a numbers thing. Due to the boom in HS graduates and the increasing cost of privates, more students are turning to the UCs every year and they don’t have room for everyone who’s qualified. Students are being turned down today who would have gotten in even a few years ago. Although it stings to be turned down, you need to figure out your best strategy for what to do next, and that’s the purpose of this post.

In a nutshell, the advice is attend Santa Barbara City College (SBCC) for 2 years, enrolling in the guaranteed transfer program. Live in private dorms right by the UCSB campus the 1st year, in IV the next 3 (just like the 4-year kids do). Take part in campus life, and finish up with the UCSB diploma. And if you have a lot of AP credit it gets even better; maybe you can spend just 1 year at sbcc and 3 at UCSB (more on that later).

Many students refuse to consider a community college because they want the full “college experience” and want to spend 4 years at the same place making friends, learning the ropes of the school, and getting to know the area. That’s where UCSB is different, though. It’s one of the few residential colleges in CA where students live on/near campus. So if you live in the community adjoining UCSB (“Isla Vista” AKA “IV”), you’ll be in a much better position than a junior just showing up for the 1st time. By living in IV you can take advantage of the social opportunities, you’ll be living in the same place as UCSB students, you can attend campus events and activities. You can participate in intramural sports at UCSB at a slightly higher fee than students pay, and you can join many of the same career-related clubs as a non-voting member. See http://osl.sa.ucsb.edu/campus-organizations/getting-involved-at-ucsb/browse to contact clubs you’re interested in and see if they allow sbcc students to join. And you can even join the UCSB Rec Center and use the weight room, climbing wall, etc.

A big concern of many frosh is where to live. One advantage of being a 4-year student at most colleges is you start out in a dorm with meals taken care of, an RA for advice, you instantly get to know some kids at the college because they live on your floor, and so on. Turns out that you can do much the same thing at SBCC. There are 2 private dorms right by the UCSB campus that house SBCC students. See http://www.sbcc.edu/housing/Dorm_Stryle_Living.php Note that some deadlines for dorms are in this spring. Even though they aren’t the official UCSB-owned dorms, you’ll still get a lot of the same 1st-year experience. And 2nd year you find an apartment in IV, which is what most UCSB students do anyway after frosh year. Given the size of UCSB your neighbors aren’t going to know you go to sbcc until you tell them; they’ll just assume they haven’t run into you on campus.

Now that we’ve talked about living in the UCSB community, lets talk about that UCSB diploma. As a transfer student you get the same one a 4-year student does; nowhere does it say “junior transfer”. Your BA or BS degree is from UCSB, period. UCSB has a guaranteed transfer program with the community colleges, so you will KNOW you’re getting in. At SBCC it is run thru the http://www.sbcc.edu/transferacademy/ with counselors who know what you need to do. They offer honors course, as well as counseling and contact with UCSB. After you’ve completed a semester at SBCC you can take a UCSB class for credit each quarter (paying a LOT less than the UCSB students, BTW!). You can get the guarantee program at any CC, including the one in your community. But you’ll miss out on the setting and social environment those 1st 2 years that probably is part of why you wanted to go to UCSB in the first place. It turns out SBCC sends more than any other CC to UCSB, because it attracts students who enrolled to do exactly what I’m suggesting.

The news may be even better if you have a lot of AP credit. You may be able to get in after just 1 year and spend 3 more at UCSB! Here’s how. In order to enter UCSB as a transfer, you have to be a junior. Being a junior just means you have a certain number of units, but those units can be AP credit and CC classes. Keep in mind, too, that nothing says you have to take an AP class to take the AP test. Even if you’re not in that many AP classes right now, if you are really motivated you could learn the material between now and May for a few of the easier subjects. All you’re risking is your time and the test fees. Lets suppose you have 45 quart-erunits of AP credit plus enough CC to make you a junior after 1 year. You enter UCSB after one year. Now it might seem like you have only 2 years left at UCSB since you started as a junior but it you can ignore the AP credit once you’re at UCSB (except for duplicating classes).

In summary, even if you aren’t fortunate enough to be accepted to UCSB as a frosh there are ways to enjoy most of the same things those enrolled for all 4 years do, including ending up with that UCSB diploma.

This exactly what I’m doing, SBCC for a couple years and then UCSB maybe even USC. Living in off campus housing in IV. Anyone know how fraternities work with SBCC/Transfer students ?

I go to SBCC and am transferring this year. I believe there are certain UCSB greek life organizations that let SBCC students rush. When you transfer, I know for sure that you are allowed to rush.
SBCC has a few academic fraternities, and I am part of one called Phi Theta Kappa. If you’re interested in knowing more, just send me a message! @Guy12259

@doihaveashot2016 @Guy12259 @mikemac What is your guys review on the orchid of santa barbara, the residence halls across the street from sbcc

This is the first I hear of The Orchid. Definitely not well very known. I looked at the location and I know that street is always busy and has a lot of cars going through it. Plus, it’s next to a liquor store (can be some interesting characters), across from a gas station, and adjacent to a 7-11 (even more interesting characters). Wouldn’t be my top pick for housing but I’ve never seen it for myself. Scope it out for sure. I know a lot of students live at La Brezza, Beach City, or apartments around there. Some even choose to live on the mesa with friends or IV with friends. There’s also Tropicana Gardens in IV which is supposed to be a residence hall for SBCC students. @Mattg0927

How about the loop in isla vista? do you know how it is. if so do you know how the rent is as it does not list it on their website! @doihaveashot2016 @mikemac

I’ve been there, it’s nice and modern, but maybe sort of pricey. I have no idea what rent would be, but I just say that because it’s a little too nice to be cheap. It’s not really geared towards SBCC students so you’d have to find friends to room with you I assume. @Mattg0927

In your opinion how much money would it cost me to go to sbcc for one year
Including : rent, food, gas
Airfaire would prob be 1k to 2k for me since im from NJ
I am also an above average eater to say the least
And since im OOS it would prob be 12k to blow through all the credits
I would prefer to live alone too , all of this in 1 year
@doihaveashot2016