Bad things about Cornell?

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Is it possible for a CAS Econ major to use AEM classes to satisfy the requirements? I know that a lot are cross-listed, but like, can we essentially just take AEM and still get a CAS Econ degree?</p>

<p>Nope, out of the 120 credits required for graduation you need to take at least 100 in CAS. And I think the econ department makes a point of not accepting non crosslisted AEM classes…but if you only take the basic business classes like accounting/finance/whatever (assuming you’re looking for a banking job) you’ll be just fine.</p>

<p>Note: you’ll probably have a really hard time getting into those classes even as a rising sophomore, so plan on taking the Hotel school versions. That is, if you don’t want to transfer.</p>

<p>To some extent the social environment. Cornell is diverse in ethnic groups, but that doesn’t prevent people from clinging to their social spheres and being (sometimes incredibly) inclusive. It can be a real challenge for someone that wants to meet people throughout all of their time at Cornell.</p>

<p>Aww, what? CAS students can’t get into AEM classes easily? /:</p>

<p>I’m not transferring to CALS since I want a Government major. Ideally, I would double major in Gov/Econ, but Gov comes first.</p>

<p>*Aww, what? CAS students can’t get into AEM classes easily? /:</p>

<p>I’m not transferring to CALS since I want a Government major. Ideally, I would double major in Gov/Econ, but Gov comes first. *</p>

<p>It depends on what semester you take the specific AEM class. Financial accounting (AEM 2210) is one example of this. It’s offered both semesters, but in the fall, its course staff kicks out many non-CALS students while in the spring they’re much more accepting of people outside of the college.</p>

<p>I guess I’ll save them for spring, then. What are some good classes to take in the fall in CAS? I can AP out of a lot of the intros.</p>

<p>What’s bad about Cornell? As a parent I have been underwhelmed by the quality of the healthcare at the health center.</p>

<p>PE classes can get expensive! My daughter’s equestrian PE class was around $300. With tuition of around $40,000, PE ought to be free!</p>

<p>Gym costs money too.</p>

<p>Hiking up Libe slope in the winter if you live in the west campus dorms.</p>

<p>You can fly out of Binghamton which is about 1 HR away via shortline bus. Wish it went to the airport. Wish there was a regular bus to Syracuse airport too.</p>

<p>The computer registration system often goes down when everyone is registering.</p>

<p>The ugly fences they put up along all of the pretty bridges.</p>

<p>The dairy barn burned down and is still not rebuilt.</p>

<p>But there is so much more that is wonderful. The good outweighs the bad.
You will love DC++ , sapsucker woods, sailing on the lake, the really good variety and quality of dorm food, the wonderful libraries and study nooks, good college town restaurants, the music played in the bell tower, the xylophone near the library, swimming in the gorges in spring and late summer, watching Cornell hockey, acapella concerts, snowball fights in winter, etc. So much to love!</p>

<p>you have to pay for PE classes? Not included in tuition? Are there any low-cost PE classes?</p>

<p>“The computer registration system often goes down when everyone is registering.”
This aspect of Cornell is absolutely horrible.</p>

<p>Surprisingly tree climbing lesson costs money too…■■■■■…</p>

<p>My daughter took finance courses in both Hotel and AEM as a CAS student. She took Securitization and Structured Financial Products in the Hotel school (great course), and TA the following year. She said it was much harder to get into an AEM class than Hotel. She double majored in math/econ, she was able to use some courses to satisfy both math/econ, but the those econ courses tend to be heavier on math.</p>

<p>My younger daughter thinks she is going to be pre-law. She originally thought maybe to major in government/econ, but her older sister told her to look into philosophy/econ. D1 said government is a tough (popular) major with a lot of reading and paper. D2 just looked through philosophy course offerings, she thought they were interesting. I am sure she will take courses in both departments to see which one she likes better.</p>

<p>MOST of the PE classes have no fee and they clearly state which do/don’t when you register. Horseback riding is obviously something that would have it. My S took Tae Kwon Do and had to buy his outfit for that ($40). An additional fee is easy to avoid.</p>

<p>3togo - I agree with you. Perhaps I did not explain it correctly. 6-8 hours is probably the LEAST he spends per class, but that does not factor in projects and studying for prelims. So, before they come into the picture, it is definitely reasonable. It is just when the project deadlines and prelims happen to be the same time that it gets crazy. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with the fact that they should be working - we are spending a lot of money. But also, lets make it clear - not ALL Engineering majors at different colleges require the same workload or have prelims with the same difficulty. I have another son in engineering at another school, and so far it seems like much less work, and much easier midterms.
As far as grading method, I know what you are saying. I merely meant that one of HIS complaints is sometimes you are doing great in a class, doing great on all your homeworks, and you THINK you did well on a prelim, but so did everyone else, therefore, you are not rewarded. That is one of HIS complaints. Where as my other son’s teachers do not curve, and the tests are definitely easier. Just saying lol. Also, he is not complaining overall - he loves Cornell - I was merely stating what HIS complaints have been.</p>

<p>I think ice skating also has a fee. I am not the one who registers, so I don’t see the non-cost PE classes. I think the massage class even had a fee.</p>

<p>I know a lot of schools where even the horseback riding does not cost extra. Just sayin’.</p>

<p>The pool is free. When D was a freshman, she did not want to pay for the gym, so she just went and swam laps.</p>

<p>If you play basketball a lot and/or weightlift a lot, you’ll have no issue with the fitness fee. It’s well worth the cost in that case.</p>

<p>As for certain PE’s, the price doesn’t seem to dissuade people too much (see skating, hockey).</p>

<p>I think that you will see a lot more cross listing of Econ, AEM, PAM, and ILR classes in the next few years now that there is an initiative to “combine” the departments, making it easier for Econ majors to take AEM classes. Regardless, just because you can only use 20/120 credits to graduate from other colleges for CAS, that’s still 5-6 AEM classes you could take that aren’t cross-listed…I want to say all 134 credits I had when I graduated were in CAS, because CAS is the college that offers all the variety and many classes are cross-listed.</p>