Hard for me to believe sororities are that connected to their national. If so, their reputation within each campus would be more uniformed.
I would guess that the sorority took down its video and all other social media to stop the haters hating on them. Another smart marketing move.
I re-watched the video and did not notice anything overtly sexual. But I am the mother of two Ds from a warm climate, so bikinis and minimal attire is quite common around here. And I am well aware that young people like to display their sexuality. I think that is developmentally normal.
Alpha Phiâs reputation at Cornell is very different than UPennâs, likewise for Tri Delta at those two campuses.
@oldfort - by connected I was referring to the fact that the national organization sets parameters for how recruitment is to be done, rules for social engagements, philanthropy involvement, etc. Alumnae are present at every formal meeting and throughout recruitment. Every officer has an alumnae liaison. That does not mean that every chapter is going to have the same âtypeâ of girl or reputation. What it means is there a lot of oversight of the chapterâs activities. This applies only to sororities that are members of the National Panhellenic organization.
Alpha Phiâs national governing association may not have been aware of this video, but they most certainly would have (and have had) something to say about it after the fact. Like any national organization, with members across the country, they must answer to more than one particular constituency.
I wouldnât be so sure about that considering there are some reports the vast majority most attracted to viewing that video were hormonal young males and men old enough to be their fathers/grandfathers.
Itâs not too far removed from sayâŠBurberry trying to attract more upscale clients by including British Chavs in ad campaigns trying to attract those well-heeled clients rather than do what they actually didâŠexpend much effort in disassociating their brand/image from the British Chav subculture which embraced wearing their products because they feared such associations would tarnish the upscale image they were trying to maintain.
Thatâs funny blprof, Pizzagirl is a member of a sorority and active in the alum aspect as she has said many times.
The national advisers have been involved at 'Bama for the last 3 years making sure race is not a factor in selection. That doesnât mean national advisers control the social media posts, the dress code, the songs. That is mostly left to the local chapters and local advisers. National spends a lot more time worrying about new chapters or chapters that arenât as strong. If you look at youtube the other houses have similar videos, although not with the swimsuit scenes. Similarly blonde and white. The Kappa Delta video from Ohio State also very white, although they were wearing beanie hats, scarves and mittens rather than bikinis.
The black fraternities and sororities were started in 1974 because there was a need and, yes, the older sororities were not welcoming black students, but remember black students had only just started attending Alabama! My sorority in the late 70âs had a black member but that was surprising only because there were so few blacks at our school. It never occurred to us to exclude her, or the Jewish girls, or anyone else for that matter. Itâs been 40 years and yes, itâs time to integrate at Alabama but many on this thread have said they donât want their daughters joining this type of house. This is a very typical house in the south so if you wonât let your daughters join, who is supposed to be the ground breakers to make things change?
A third of the student body is in the Greek system at Alabama. Can they really all be bimbos? Reading on CC youâd think that everyone at Alabama is on scholarship for having a high gpa and high test schools, in the honors college, and heading to Ivy grad schools. Iâm guessing many of these women are quite intelligent, handle budgeting for events of 500 guests, manage food and housing issues, enforce gpa requirements and social infractions. Not bimbos.
@twogirlsanddone - you might want to go back and read more of this thread, including pizzagirlâs comments, before you address my comment. Oddly, she suggested that those in the greek system donât understand how it works.
And no one is suggesting that these girls ARE bimbos, just that they have unfortunately chosen to portray themselves that way. Call me crazy, but if Iâm a smart, beautiful girl, Iâd want everyone to know more about the former than the latter. Dancing around in bikinis doesnât say much about that.
I donât understand what the issue here is⊠I didnât see anything offensive in it. Is it really that theyâre all White? Or that theyâre not reading textbooks in the video?
Isnât it a bit ironic to be upset that they are excluding you, and at the same time to be so unimpressed with who they are and how they are presenting themselves?
If we were to survey the recruitment videos of the fraternities and sororities of historically black colleges, would we be universally impressed by their diversity? Would they be clad and behaving like Rhodes scholars on their way to Oxford?
Just some things to thing about.
Reading textbooks and dancing in bikinis are not the only two options here.
Thatâs it, goodnight everybody . . .
"Alpha Phiâs national governing association may not have been aware of this video, but they most certainly would have (and have had) something to say about it after the fact. "
Well yeah, isnât that what I said? Of course the national is going to say take it down (and be plenty annoyed that they have to deal with this). They likely didnât oversee the making of the video. Theyâve got over a hundred chapters, no one chapter is going to loom all that large to them.
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@loukydad Do you even know the rich and tragic history on why we have HBUs? Prior to the civil war, higher education for African American students was virtually nonexistent. I suggest you make a diligent reading on why both necessity and a cruel piece of American dictated the need for such institutions --see the followingâhttp://www.collegeview.com/articles/article/the-history-of-historically-black-colleges-and-universities
You know, I can watch any mainstream music awards show or turn on any hip hop radio station and see and hear waaaaaay worse. Hello, Miley Cyrus. Hello, Straight Outta Compton glorifying NWA whose big hit was about f the police. So spare me if I donât get an attack of the vapors here that cute little white girls are gallivanting about in white dresses and blowing bubbles. Would we prefer they twerk or use racial obscenities?
âHard for me to believe sororities are that connected to their national. If so, their reputation within each campus would be more uniformedâ
@oldfort, You would not believe how connected we are to national, in fact our national adviser is sitting next to me as I type this message. She visits a couple time a year and fusses at us for not following the national guide lines. Her opinion is that the video was pretty normal and my sorority actually put one out this year pretty similar except we were at a pool rather than the river.
At any rate we thought the video was pretty good and would hire the camera and editing crew if we could. It was really well done. We have both blonds and brunettes in our sorority and sent 14 girls last year to medical or law school.
Oh and whoever said that the Greeks hurt Alabamaâs credibility have not partied at Vanderbilt with the Greeks. I donât see it hurting Vandys rep.
This is a recruiting video of a different chapter
https://youtu.be/tQ41sevtlD4
I like the other one better :-*
@boolaHi - If these girls are racist, why do they have an AA male in the video starting at the the 2:30 mark? He certainly seems to be having a good time, as do the girls in the video.
Is that your inflection point to prove your pointâ??
Maybe itâs as PG puts it, hey itâs just Alabama letâs not have too high an expectation levelâŠ
@boolaHI Can you please explicitly state what problem you have with the video so people can respond.
Iâm aware of the history boolaHI. That isnât really the point though, is it? The point is whether if we compared videos, what would we see? Would we see young scholars studying diligently in the library? Or twerking and dance routines? Seems to me you have really high standards for behavior in one college subculture, but not the other?