<p>Lets get this going, who do you support, why, and if you can, try to destroy the credibility of the candidate that you dont support. lets get this messy</p>
<p>Mccain its awesome because he wants to reduce the size and scope of the federal government, and give more power to the states so that we have a truly federal country instead of a national empire, plus atleast he is not a secret muslim.</p>
<p>McCain is old. Obama is crazy. I'm moving to Canada.</p>
<p>Obama. It's really more of a vote against McCain. Sorry, I simply can't have another Republican in the White House. Plus, I want somebody in there who supports gay marriage. (Obviously, there's more to it than that. But it's just an example of many of McCain's stances on social issues that I have a real problem with.)</p>
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Seriously, get over it. He's not. Even if he was, there's nothing wrong with it.</p>
<p>Obama would get my vote between the two.</p>
<p>I thought the Muslim thing would go away after the pastor thing. If he were to fake being a Christian, would he really pick that church?</p>
<p>This isn't about my preference (seeing as I don't know enough to really have one), but it's about the Obama being a "secret Muslim" thing.</p>
<p>Is</a> Barack Obama Muslim? *</p>
<p>(Its a link ^)</p>
<p>*BTW - he is NOT.</p>
<p>...Are you people serious? Why are all the posts about whether he's a Muslim or not? Wth? Where did that come from?</p>
<p>He's NOT Muslim. That's pretty obvious.</p>
<p>I wonder, was Saddam Hussein a Hindu...</p>
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<p>Invoyable, I was replying the Opening Poster's remark about Obama being a Muslim, and trying to show how he has his facts mixed up.</p>
<p>I agree with you that its pretty darn obvious he's not a Muslim, but apparently 12% of the American Population still believe he is =/ (According to an online article - I don't have the link, but I can look for it if anyone wants)</p>
<p>Obama wins by a long shot.</p>
<p>Obama. And I agree, even if he WAS a Muslim, what would be wrong with that?</p>
<p>I think Obama will bring the real change we need: humility in our foreign policy. For too long we've been governing the world as our own, without trying to make other countries feel empowered. We need to work together; unilateralism is out! Look, it's not the 1950s anymore and we have to at least acknowledge the other countries around us. The UN had inspectors in Iraq prior to the war and found no conclusive evidence of weapons of mass destruction. And what did we do? Our officials told them comfortably from Washington that there WERE.</p>
<p>plus McCain is so old I worry what would happen once he put a foot in the Oval Office...</p>
<p>Obama doe not win by a long shot. Too many traditionally Republican states exist for the election not to be close. The entire Southeastern states (excluding Florida) are locks for McCain as is much of the Midwest and states over the Rocky Muntains. McCain may win thirty states and still lose because he will likely win many of the sparsely populated states. The West Coast and Northeast (possibly excluding New Hampshire) will vote Democrat. Obama will also win some of the states that surround the Great Lakes. It will, as always, come down to a handful of states that can go either way. </p>
<p>I believe McCain cannot win because he is too different from the Republican base of evangelical conservatives to garner support in "battleground" states. I feel he is too moderate and might alienate his base enough to where some might stay home instead of voting for him. </p>
<p>I want Obama to win because I can't stand watching the Republicans mess up my future for another four years. I agree with his stances on abortion, gay marriage, and taxes (Don't fully understand, but my family believe I will be paying less due to our income level). Obama's religion should not be an issue. If he was a Muslim, it shouldn't matter.</p>
<p>Also, as the war continues to lose support, many Americans will support the candidate that plans to take us out of Iraq.</p>
<p>^ i was making a stephen colbert joke when I was talking about barack beinga secret muslim, I didnt think you guys would take it seriously, and i just wanted to get the thread started. i know hes not a secret muslim</p>
<p>^lol its just that we've heard it so many times from the crazy right wingers</p>
<p>hillary!
jk lol
im towards mccain for now but i still need to learn more about each candidate before i make the decision</p>
<p>"I want Obama to win because I can't stand watching the Republicans mess up my future for another four years"</p>
<p>I wouldn't exactly say that they have. The Iraq War has actually not personally affected an overwhelmingly majority of Americans. Gas prices are rising because of speculation, and various other reasons that most users (including myself) do not fully understand. I think it's a stretch to say that George Bush is screwing up YOUR life personally.</p>
<p>Anyway, I personally do not support Obama. I have gotten used to the swarming ignorant masses (and knowledgeable masses) that do, so I see why people are voting for him.</p>
<p>However, I really get bothered when people announce that the prophet of change and clean politics has arrived, because I think that it's pretty clear that he is a nicely packaged, perhaps less caustic, partisan politicians who IS concerned with his own image. In addition, McCain (at least) and most other politicians are ALSO genuinely concerned with the welfare of the American public. Obama really isn't anything significantly different.</p>
<p>Briguy, I do not think that barack would bring humility for foreign policy. I think he would get chewed alive due to his excessive rhetoric, and lack of action. Also, he is very inexperienced in foreign relations, and I would fear him being played by leaders of other countries much like bush is played by cheney and his cabinet. My main fear with barack is his move to socialism and expansion of the federal govt. I do agree with more govt regulation of business. The way it works best is for the govt to regulate industry, and let the market operate within the bounds placed upon it by the govt. What barack wants is for the fed govt to replace, or severly limit the power of many industries to operate with any kind of a market structure whatsoever.</p>
<p>lack of action? hes still a senator, not the president yet. plus, I'd consider not talking to countries like Cuba and Iran "inaction." If we ignore the problem, it will only get bigger and bigger. Obama has said he will talk with both "friend and foe".</p>
<p>I don't believe that Obama was anything drastically different as far as being a politician goes or that McCain doesn't care. After watching the stock market fall and many jobs cut, I think the current administration has to be held at least partly accountable. I believe the money they used for the war could have been used in places such as funding public works projects that would have helped the economy by giving jobs to many unemployed.</p>
<p>^^, typo, sorry I ment lack of experience/knowledge</p>
<p>Apparently it's no wonder that working class people cling to guns and religion, huh? And the people Obama deals with: Wright, Johnson, Rezko, and others. Birds of a feather, flock together. He criticizes McCain for having lobbyists in his campaign, what a hypocrite.</p>
<p>I'm supporting McCain</p>