<p>The correct way is :</p>
<p>B.A. Barnard College.</p>
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Most Harvard UG list ‘Harvard College’ to make sure that it is not harvard extension school. </p>
<p>Increasing number of CC grads say ‘Columbia College’ or ‘Columbia College, Columbia University’, to make sure that it is not GS degree.</p>
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diploma says ‘Trustees of Columbia U’ not ‘Columbia U’. Trustees of Columbia U is different from Columbia U. That is why Barnard grads can not join Columbia Univesity Alumni Association.</p>
<p>thanks admissionsgeek, for post #540, including quoting what the diploma says verbatim, per the 2nd to last paragraph.</p>
<p>The Barnard diploma says essentially the same thing that the diplomas of all the other groups which graduate every year from Columbia University with the appropriate names inserted, of course (ie Columbia College, SEAS, Barnard College, etc), and substituting the signature of the dean or head of that specific school, along side of the signature of the President of Columbia University. The other big difference is that Barnard’s diploma is in latin while all the other schools I believe are in English.</p>
<p>Only confident Barnard grads proudly say (without mentioning Columbia) </p>
<p>Barnard B.A. </p>
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<p>Nope. </p>
<p>Barnard diplomas are signed by TWO separate presidents with TWO different seals.</p>
<p>CC/SEAS/Law/Med etc. degees are signed by ONE president with ONE seal of CU.</p>
<p>Barnard diplomas are completely different.</p>
<p>As I said in my post, the diplomas of the different schools are signed by the President of the University and the dean or, as in the case of Barnard, president of that school. You can google Columbia University Diploma and find examples. </p>
<p>This is a tired argument that has been rehashed many, many times. Barnard graduates are indeed rightfully proud of their school and can and do correctly state that they are graduates of Barnard College, Columbia University.</p>
<p>Also folks, keep in mind that Barnard’s transcripts are issued by the Barnard registrar and look nothing like Columbia transcripts. Your employer is far more likely to see your transcript than your diploma.</p>
<p>It is signed by Barnard President not by the dean of Barnard. </p>
<p>Barnard diploma looks weird because it is signed by Two separate university presidents with two separate seal of two different €schools. </p>
<p>All columbia diplomas have only One Seal of CU. </p>
<p>and yes they are graduate of Barnard College. (which is separate from Columbia)</p>
<p>I just graduated from Barnard. My diploma says “THE TRUSTEES OF COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY” in latin very large on the top and looks exactly like the Columbia College degree. Only difference is, written amongst the latin, it says barnard college somewhere in there where my friend’s says columbia college and I have my diploma signed by president of Barnard, Deborah Spar and president of Columbia University Lee Bollinger. The seal of columbia and barnard are both on my diploma. At the university commencement last week, the dean of each college and the president of barnard each had to “ask” the president (Lee Bollinger, or PresBo, as we call him) to grant us the degree. The university gives the degree and our president signs it too.</p>
<p>I am very proud to have gone to Barnard College of Columbia University. I enjoyed many benefits from going to Barnard and most of my classes were held at Columbia. But that doesn’t mean I didn’t attend Barnard. I applied to Barnard directly and I pay tuition to Barnard. Barnard decided repeatedly not to merge completely with Columbia University because we chose to maintain our position as pioneers in education for women. This does mean that there is a distinction between the two institutions, but as far as “going” to Columbia University goes, a Barnard student certainly did “go” to Columbia University. Not Columbia College, SEAS, JTS, UTS, GS, etc, but BC–Barnard College. Everyone that attends any part of the university now will tell you that. BC is affiliated with CU and the borders between them are very blurry but I am certainly proud of both BC and CU. </p>
<p>Everything you have said Columbia2002, shows me that you do not understand the Columbia community as it currently is. I cannot vouch for how it used to be, although the faculty there now does not describe it at all as how you claim it is. </p>
<p>So, you are wrong. Everyone gets the same diploma that says “CVRATORES VNIVERSITATIS COLBMBIAE” or “THE TRUSTEES OF COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY” in English, written on it with their particular college written amongst the latin underneath. Honestly though, it’s hard to find mention of your college, probably because I don’t speak Latin but they do give you a translation!</p>
<p>Yes, say Barnard College, Columbia University. Don’t say Columbia simply because that implies Columbia College, which is inaccurate. I just graduated from Barnard and my degree is from Columbia University it literally says “CVRATORES VNIVERSITATIS COLVMBIAE” which means “THE TRUSTEES OF COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY” and is signed by both president of CU Lee Bolinger and president of BC Deborah Spar…that’s what it says on it so why would I say anything else?</p>
<p>This is the exact English translation of the Barnard degree. I hope this stops all confusion.</p>
<p>The Trustees of Columbia University
in the City of New York</p>
<p>To all and sundry to whom this document shall come, greetings.
Know ye that inasmuch as she has duly and lawfully completed all the
exercises pertaining to the degree of Bachelor of Arts, we have advanced</p>
<p>MY NAME</p>
<p>to that degree and have granted and given her all the rights, priveleges, and honors which are customarily bestowed in such instances. In more complete testimony whereof we have directed that this diploma be validated by the signatures of the President of this University of the President of Barnard College and also by our common seal.</p>
<p>Granted in New York on the 18 day of the month of May in the year two thousand ten.</p>
<p>The president of THIS university and of Barnard both signed it. If anything, Barnard is what is mentioned off hand, which I disliked. </p>
<p>Anyway, there is nothing more to speculate. I actually graduated from Barnard and here is the truth.</p>
<p>Congratulations Sherina on your graduation! You should feel very proud of your achievements. I think this entire thread esp from Collegeboy49 is a bit deceitful and meaningless. I wonder truly why this Barnard-Columbia randomly created cyberspace conflict by the likes of Collegeboy49 matters. We have many problems to solve in this world, let’s not create imaginary ones :).</p>
<p>At anyrate, hats of to you on your achievement – do great things in the future :).</p>
<p>Important fact on what the TRANSCRIPT says. I happen to be a hiring manager at a large international corporations. This b.s. about transcripts is bizarre. Here’s how we hire (and yes, we are damn good at it). We get resumes for a given skill set across a broad range of universities and filter for GPA. Then we look at any outside internships etc. Then we interview like crazy… sometimes a 2 days worth of interviews. Finally we make an offer. HR takes care of the medical paperwork… including transcripts. I never bother to look at the transcript… as long as it matches (it would cause a red flag if the GPA was different) once I have made the offer. </p>
<p>Get out of your Ivy league mirrors and take a look at the real world. Truly… if you CC people actually got into Columbia or any other “prestigious” place, your attitude is shameful. Take it your essays were probably a bunch of b.s. also. It is just not impressive, I hope I never have to look at your resume.</p>
<p>Barnard graduates are not allowed to access Columbia University Office of the Career Services (OCS). All the job database, recruiting events from top consulting, ibanking firms at OCS are for Columbia Students/graduates only. Take a look at the real world, there are many top ibanks, hedge funds that recruit only at Ivy schools (excluding Barnard College).</p>
<p>Actually, collegeboy, in the “real world” things haven’t been looking so hot for ibanking and hedge funds for quite a while. They kind of imploded back in 2008 and there are a lot of unemployed financial types in NY snatching up all the bartending jobs.</p>
<p>As of 2009, almost 42% of surveyed graduating Columbia students opted for jobs in the [nonprofit</a>, public or government sector.](<a href=“http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2010/03/25/community-service-jobs-hold-renewed-appeal]nonprofit”>Community service jobs hold renewed appeal) </p>
<p>I’d note that Barnard Career Services and the BEST program for seniors and Senior Initiative are absolutely phenomenal.</p>
<p>Collegeboy, there is no point in this discussion except to somehow promote elitism and arrogance. Neither is a quality that one should strive for. Good luck to you and here’s hoping you well. There are gems at every school, but you will need to discover that truth for yourself.</p>
<p>sounds to me like a barnard girl burned collegeboy somewhere… there seems to be no other reason for propagating such hatred. (other than what mom1966 said)</p>
<p>That could be.</p>
<p>I would say that you moms are crazy, and maybe have something of an inferiority complex about Barnard. You don’t need to be defensive over a great school.</p>
<p>Collegeboy is just an ibanking ******. He might make a lot of money striving for his career and he might die alone.</p>