“Segregation” usually implies an enforced separation of racial or ethnic groups, and it also is usually used as referring to near-100 percent of the time. The segregation of blacks prior to the 1960’s was a very onerous social tragedy. The situation now-a-days on a largely liberal campus like Cornell has nothing to do with anything like those oppressive social environments from previous days and places. Nothing. If people like to congregate with others of similar attributes for a portion of the time, well, it’s a free country. It’s a completely fine situation. Most of them do not, however, confine their time solely to the one group. </p>
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Craigslist in general tends to attract a pretty big share of discontented and irate people-- in any city across the board.</p>
<p>well i’d argue that segregation is “self” enforced by the fact that with asians you have a language barrier…and with jewish people its either religious or an elitist nature…</p>
<p>I’d like to comment on some of the things you mentioned:
Notorious Suicide Rate - At least it’s below the national average.
isolation of the campus - there are plenty of things to do in campus. If you want access to a busy bustling city / be where the action happens, then simply don’t come here. Many people don’t mind a quieter atmosphere.
“easiest ivy to get into, hardest to get out of” - that’s just something students from other ivies like to say about cornell. Basically, yes, Cornell is a challenging school.
absolutely freezing winters - OK, I agree with you on that, but if you’re used to snow, it really shouldn’t be too bad.
frat dominated atmosphere - I do not know much about this, but I’ve heard that it’s exaggerated. Cornell is a very diverse place. I’m sure you can find friends / do fun activities without being in a fraternity.</p>
<p>Oneof my bigger concerns about Cornell personally is the size of the school/independence you have. You REALLY have to be extremely independent and taking initiative here - it’s gonna be a difficult transition for many students.</p>
<p>I would estimate that 85 percent of the Asians at Cornell have no language barrier, because they are Asian Americans. The majority of them freely mix throughout the community. (Or maybe many of them simply choose to avoid you as an individual, and you over-extrapolate from that? …don’t claim to know, just wondering.)</p>
<p>In regard to the Jewish community: there is negligible “self” enforcement of them ignoring non-Jewish people. Would you accuse Christians of segregation because they may go to church, meet in study groups, and occasionally walk and talk with each other? Jews come in many hues, and the vast majority mix right in to the broader culture in present-day America-- even more so at a progressive school like Cornell.</p>
<p>When a “stereotype” is asserted, and it only holds true for, say, 2 percent of its class, is it still true? Stereotypes tend to be “true” when a large majority of its constituents fit the assertion. So, a true stereotype would be that experienced jazz musicians have rhythm. But the stereotype that most Asians at Cornell don’t mix with the broader community is false. As is the idea that Jews “self segregate,” as a rule, on campus.</p>
<p>whoa, so this is an IVY thread. I am headin’ back to the cornfields of the midwest, to urbana, Illinois, where there is less name calling and pretension.</p>
<p>So, in your mind civil debate is equivalent with “pretension?” If this is the case you likely wont be much missed at any of the ivies. I wish you the best in the midwest though-- plenty of good schools there.</p>
<p>you’re attacking cornell on the CORNELL board. do you seriously expect us to welcome you with open arms? of course we’re going to be defensive. you shouldn’t be expecting completely objective answers. what do you expect? “yeah, cornell is really easy to get into, and it makes you want to kill yourself. the weather is ****ing awful. it sucks up here” get real, dude.</p>
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