<p>So I'm planning on double majoring at U of M (physics/econ) and I'd like to take some math courses too. The problem is that it'll be really hard to do that if I'm in Honors and have to take 2 classes per semester. I looked at the Econ and Physics websites and I could still get Honors degrees without even being in the Honors Program. Is there any point to being in Honors then?</p>
<p>There are a few reasons to do Honors. </p>
<p>One is slightly better advising. Honors advisors are a little more willing to make accomodations for students, as far as getting things to count for distribution and whatnot. </p>
<p>Another reason is that Honors versions of some classes are technically easier than the real class. In honors classes, if you put in the work, you'll get a good grade. That doesn't always happen in the corresponding normal sections, especially if it's some kind of weeder class for bschool/engineering.</p>
<p>Being able to take Great Books is also an advantage. You're able to meet your first year writing requirement and distribution at the same time, which general LSA students are not able to do.</p>
<p>The big reason is honors housing. Not only does South Quad have great location, but honestly it's where all the smart people are. You have all of the first years honors students there, and lots of times honors sophomores returning to the dorms stay in Squad, though not in official "honors" housing. If you ever need help with homework, pretty much all the people who are capable of helping you will be in South Quad. </p>
<p>As far as honors requirements, most people just ignore them. Like you said, undergrad honors is seperate from a degree with honors, so there's absolutely no consequence to not meeting undergrad honors requirements. Unless you really want whatever little certificate you get after sophomore year for jumping through the necessary hoops.</p>
<p>mvt, what did u mean by 2 classes? do honors kids have to take 2 extra classes or something?</p>
<p>housing as a benefit for honors is stupid. wow.. you get to live in SOUTH QUAD your freshman year. woop dee doo -_- and to my knowledge, a lot of honors kids didn't even get to live in honors housing due to space.</p>
<p>honestly, the only good thing i can see with being in the honors program is the title. you might not even get an advantage over umich kids in terms of jobs or grad school, so i don't really see much of a difference. and for me, if you say you're an honors kid, i'll just think to myself, 'you're pretty smart huh'. the end.</p>
<p>No, honors is definitely worth it for South Quad, I have to walk there every day to work on math, etc. with people, not that I should complain, Martha Cook's close enough, but lots of people who live in the Hill or North find it very inconvenient to walk back and forth at 2-3 am.</p>
<p>Is it necessary to get accepted into this honors program to get involved with doing an honors concentration junior and senior years and eventually graduating with honors in one's field?</p>
<p>Consolation prize for the kids that didn't get into Ivies.</p>
<p>No, it's not neccessary to get accepted into the honors program for all that other stuff. It's completely separate.</p>
<p>what are the course requirements for honors?</p>
<p>"housing as a benefit for honors is stupid"</p>
<p>Try telling that to kids who got stuck on North Campus, or hate walking to class from the Hill.</p>
<p>"mvt, what did u mean by 2 classes? do honors kids have to take 2 extra classes or something?"
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"what are the course requirements for honors?"</p>
<p>To remain in good standing with the Honors department, you're supposed to take 2 "honors" classes a semester, plus two "literature and ideas" classes. There's a big list of crap that qualifies, plus most 300+ classes as a freshmen and 400+ classes as as sophomore count as honors classes.</p>