<p>UCLA.</p>
<p>They have an honors program (wheras Berkeley does not) and are good enough compared to Berkeley (a few ranks difference really means nothing). + the year-round weather is much better (lots of my richer profs have houses in LA here in Berkeley).</p>
<p>Also the girls will be hotter. Trust me.</p>
<p>oh yeah, go to UCLA simply cuz they have "hotter" girls. I mean, c'mon, all those hot girls go for engineering guys right?</p>
<p>pffft....be realistic here.</p>
<p>Some girls do care about future earnings potential.</p>
<p>Liberal...the guys at Berkeley are pretty damn ugly too.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you want to do engineering go to Berkeley. I'm not sure if it's feasible doing both premed and engineering though, as GPA is extremely important for med school.</p>
<p>UCLA projected to beat Cal for fall 2006 </p>
<p>UCLA has had the superior student body for several years now. </p>
<p>Not the professors. Not the programs (many of them, anyway). But the students. </p>
<p>Dead link. Also, keep in mind that, even with the about 10k more applicants, Cal's stats are similar. And, most important, UCLA bases admissions more on SATs, Cal focuses more on other factors.</p>
<p>"UCLA projected to beat Cal for fall 2006."</p>
<p>Beat them at what? Football? Basketball?</p>
<p>UCLA 21.5% GPA 4.31 SAT 2043</p>
<p>Berk 22.6% GPA 4.22 SAT 2039</p>
<p>Let's wait for some real data, shall we?</p>
<p>Wow, what a huge difference in numbers! How about you give us the numbers of nobel prize winners, poet Laureates, MacArthur Fellows, Guggenheim Fellows, Fulbright Scholars, Pulitzer Prizes, Fields Medals, and American Academy of Arts and Sciences Fellows at UCLA and we can compare them to Berkeley's. Then find any national or international rankings and put UCLA and Berkeley next to each other. Ok?</p>
<p>Both are great universities, but I still have to say Berkeley's academics beats UCLA's. UCLA's academics is ranked 90th percentile or so, while Berkeley's is in the late 90s.</p>
<p>Cotodecasa, that's the stats for admitted students. What you should actually care about is the stats for coming freshmen.</p>
<p>I dunno, I've read UCLA's honors program is a great value, an ivy league education at a state school price.</p>
<p>If that's so, I would give UCLA a big bump.</p>
<p>I'd be sceptical of UCLA's honors program as far as quality goes. I'm not saying that it's worse than UCLA or anything like that. My brother who went to UCLA gave the impressoing that most kids join for the various benefits (primarily advanced registration) with no intent to take honors classes, or graduate within the honors program. It's also very hard to graduate from the honors program (not graduate, but graduate with honors program honors). And the program didn't kick anyone out if they weren't taking honors classes. Regardless of all this, I think it's a good idea to have an honors program, but I think UCLAs needs to be improved.</p>
<p>November 3, 2005</p>
<p>By Pat JaCoby</p>
<p>The University of California, San Diego ranked seventh among the top 10 U.S. universities in receiving and expending federal research and development funding for fiscal 2002-2003, according to newly released figures from the National Science Foundation.</p>
<p>The Foundation reported that UCSD spent a total $646.5 million in R&D funds for research during the period. Other research universities in the top 10, in order, were Johns Hopkins, UCLA, Michigan, Wisconsin-Madison, Washington, UC San Francisco, UCSD, Stanford, Pennsylvania and Cornell.</p>
<p>Where is Berk?</p>
<p>"Where is Berk?" Oh, I don't know, sitting atop the list of best public universities in the world. Where's your school? BTW, I'm still waiting for a reply on my earlier post.</p>
<p>Also of concern was an NSF ranking of schools by amount of research funding. The University ranked 6th in 1995, 9th in 2000 and 8th in 2003. </p>
<p>UCLA shot from 9th to 1st in the same eight-year period, while several other universities moved up two or three notches. Further, during the period 1998-2003, Congress doubled the National Institutes of Health (NIH) budget but the University increased its NIH funding by only 75 percent. NIH is the biggest funder of University research, accounting for 43.7 percent of the U's research expenditures.</p>
<p>CotoDeCasa, look at THES's world rankings of universities. THES bases its rankings primarily on research and peers' evaluations.</p>
<p>Although UCLA is a good university, it really doesn't do a lot of circulated research comparably.</p>
<p>I would link to THES's website, but you have to log in to see the rankings table. </p>
<p>In 2004, Berkeley was ranked 2nd, after Harvard. In 2005 it ranked 6th after Harvard, MIT, Cambridge, Oxford, and Stanford. </p>
<p>And yes, THES bases its rankings primarily on research and peers.</p>
<p>lol wynne u started a big argument.</p>
<p>darn youse</p>