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Seriously, just don't go here. I remember after gettinga accepted as out of stater i read these sometimes, and it wasn't too great to listen to the bullcrap ppl like shiboing boing was spewing. i agree, i dont mind sakky's constructive critism, he at least admits it is still one of the top schools in the nation, it just requires some attention when comparing to the very top. but overall, there are really crazy ppl on thse boards for whatever reason, and I'm warning you now, if you like your school, and are proud to go to Berkeley, don't read these idiotic boards, itll just make you sad.
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<p>Well, I don't know that these boards should make you sad. I think the purposes of these boards is to hear a wide range of opinions. What is the point of hearing only opinions that are exactly the same as yours? You might as well just have a conversation with yourself. Why even have a discussion board if the board cannot present a wide range of opinions? </p>
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Finally, i heard this one point about recurrently about how only like 1 percent of ppl from Berkeley typically go on to Harvard Medical School. I am sorry to say, but that it true, HOWEVER there are TONS of other top schools like JHU and UCSF, where the Berkeley percentage of acceptance is much higher, several times up to 15 percent. I compared this to MIT's, and it stands up very formidably. Harvard aside, Berkeley sends I would say a very comparable amount of students to top medical schools. So, if harvard is your only true love, then maybe thats a problem, but if you want to go to the best of the best, you have every oppurtunity to do it from Berkeley.
Here are the stats, if you guys are wondering:</p>
<p>Berkeley's Statistics for premed acceptance from 2000-2004
<a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/top20.stm%5B/url%5D">http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/top20.stm</a></p>
<p>MIT's Statistics for premed acceptance from 2005
<a href="http://web.mit.edu/career/www/preprof/2005top25.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://web.mit.edu/career/www/preprof/2005top25.pdf</a></p>
<p>As you will see, in truth, they are quite similar.
There, I'm a proud MCB'r and WILL get into a top med school, you mark my words, and I'll come back here and tell you haters when I do.
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<p>Ha ha ha! You have chosen to compare it to MIT, which I have even said myself is unusually bad among the top private schools at gettings its students into med-school. That's because MIT, among the top private schools, is unusually difficult and rigorous and that is, sadly, what you do not want if you want to get into med-school. Instead, you want a school that grades easily and will hold your hand, and that is something that MIT will not do.</p>
<p>I think a far more fair comparison would be against Princeton. After all, HYPS have much the same philosophy when it comes to grade inflation, advising, and hand-holding. Sad to say, but Princeton does significantly better than Berkeley does when it comes to premed.</p>
<p><a href="http://web.princeton.edu/sites/hpa/data98-03.htm%5B/url%5D">http://web.princeton.edu/sites/hpa/data98-03.htm</a>
<a href="http://web.princeton.edu/sites/hpa/2005Statistics.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://web.princeton.edu/sites/hpa/2005Statistics.pdf</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, schools like Harvard don't publish their premed data online. But I've seen it, and trust me, it's roughly the same as Princeton's. </p>
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It's because there is a pair of dedicated Berkeley bashers on this board.
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<p>I can't help but think that that was a shot at me.</p>
<p>If I am basher (which I don't think I am), then what does that make you? A booster? I would argue that if my opinions are slanted, they are no more slanted than yours, CalX.</p>