berkeley is better than stanford

<p><a href="http://daily.stanford.edu/article/2004/11/22/goBears%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://daily.stanford.edu/article/2004/11/22/goBears&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>article/2004/11/22/goFigure</p>

<p>That's a joke article if you haven't noticed.</p>

<p>Stanford ranks consistently in the top five for its undergrad and nearly all of its grad programs.</p>

<p>I've talked to people who are now at Cal but had the opportunity to take advanced math classes at Stanford as a high school student. They've told me that Stanford classes do go more in depth.</p>

<p>that is a bad article. it is basically saying that berkeley is the grimy real-world equivalent of stanford, complete with "more real" hobos and less pretentious school events...what kind of statements are those? they're not joking either: if you look at the last paragraph they acknowledge that while these things are TRUE, they'd still rather go to stanford because it's harder to get in. that is one uncomfortable statement</p>

<p>anyway we all know stanford is better than berkeley.</p>

<p>The article is in no way a joke. It basically highlights why Berkeley and Stanford represent very different pictures of education. It highlights why a student may choose, or should choose, to go to a public school as opposed to a private one.</p>

<p>If for you good school = attributes of cushy private schools, then you will not understand the article.</p>

<p>You obviously don't get the sarcasm.</p>

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This all begs the question: why haven’t the two of us just gotten into our bumbling brown Mercedes and skedaddled up I-880?</p>

<p>You’re right. We haven’t, and we won’t. We’re walking ironies. In fact, we can’t wait to stay here another year. As much as this place pales in comparison to Berkeley, we’d still rather be here than there. It’s kind of like belonging to a country club. You recognize that you’re an undeserving privileged youngster and that everyone else is probably a hell of a lot more genuine and interesting than you, but ****, your membership was by invitation only. Suck on that.

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<p>They know they can't handle it at Berkeley so they hide in Palo Alto. ;)</p>

<p>No, people choose Stanford because Stanford students get into top graduate and professional degree programs at much higher rates than do Berkeley students.</p>

<p>Ugh, the Stanford Berkeley rivalry gets so old so easily. I'm not saying that I think Berkeley is a worse school or that Berkeley sucks, but there's no point in arguing that Stanford isn't one of the best universities in the nation and that it does have a lot of pros that Berkeley lacks.</p>

<p>yeah dude, stanford sucks...who would ever want to go there? :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Only someone focused on being a Cardinal.</p>

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I've talked to people who are now at Cal but had the opportunity to take advanced math classes at Stanford as a high school student. They've told me that Stanford classes do go more in depth.

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<p>Of all the evidence to bring, I really don't think you want to lean on that.</p>

<p>i talked to my friend's friend's friend's friend's cousin's friend, who happens to be a professor at stanford...and he told me that cal is way better than stanford, and wishes that he could teach there instead</p>

<p>lean on that evidence...it's rock solid</p>

<p>(i tried my hardest to make that sound sarcastic, but given that it's online, it might be ambigious.)</p>

<p>P.S. I was being sarcastic</p>

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Of all the evidence to bring, I really don't think you want to lean on that.

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Why not? The guy was a student at both schools, took comparable courses, and can make a fair judgment. Asking anyone purely on one side is going to be ineffective due to ingroup bias.</p>

<p>Yes, let's all use anecdotal references to support our claims, because my friend told me that they are the most solid support in any argument.</p>

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Why not? The guy was a student at both schools, took comparable courses, and can make a fair judgment. Asking anyone purely on one side is going to be ineffective due to ingroup bias.

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<p>Well, I think the others stated the obvious reasons why one guy's opinion of one class (in particular, that class taught in that particular semester) is a little lacking in terms of convincing evidence.</p>

<p>I mean, imagine if you went to one Baskin Robbins and one Ben and Jerry's. You tried the cookie dough at BR and the chocolate chip cookie dough at B&J and thought the cookie dough was better. Does this mean BR is better than B&J? No, it means the cookie dough made by that specific Baskin Robbins is better than the chocolate chip cookie dough made by that specific Ben & Jerry's--which you could argue means that the cookie dough of that BR is better than the cookie dough of that B&J (this is a reasonable inference). You wouldn't convince anyone that all BRs are better than all B&Js by that evidence, though.</p>

<p>I'll let you figure out how that applies to your anecdote.</p>

<p>Are you saying that Cal is full of cookie dough? :confused:</p>

<p>;)</p>

<p>There's a forum which is controlled by the University of the Philippines students talking about the same issue. I think more people there believe that UC Berkeley is better than Stanford but not Harvard. I wish to join in but singing in is temporarily not allowed. LoL</p>

<p>HAHAHAHA, gotta love the Taglish. </p>

<p>Oh a another note, thats like the millionth time I've seen someone compare UCB to UPD.</p>

<p>omg, the taglish is... :D Kris Aquino!</p>

<p>My pick: Stanford. End of Story.</p>