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It seems more likely that you’re just reluctant to admit that–gasp–a large public can be as selective as a top private (or top LAC).</p>

<p>I believe engineering admit rate was 15% this year, and that OOS admit rate was something around 18%. It makes sense, does it not, that being OOS and an engineering applicant would mean that you have an even harder time of getting in?</p>

<p>And what would be the point in my supposed “deliberately twisting the statistics”?

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<p>I have ZERO reluctance to admit that a large public can be as selective as a top private. I only have to look at programs such as the BHP at UT-Austin to convince me of that! Farther, I would have ZERO reluctance to admit that Berkeley is more selective than MIT or Stanford … if it were TRUE! </p>

<p>Fwiw, the data you offered, assuming it is verifiable, does NOT indicate that the OOS face a tougher admission at Berkeley than at Stanford or MIT. It only indicates that the OOS admit rate is lower than for in-state students. Doh! Is there anyone who disagrees with that? However, that is NOT the comparison that is made here. </p>

<p>As far as twisting the data, I do not see the point in that either!</p>