<p>Personally I think that Alexandre is somewhat correctly in his comparison of difficulty for ‘marginal students’ and the decked in medal types. I would think that , as mentioned, for someone with really high numbers its easier to get into Cal OOS for engineering. However, I think its closer to a tie for the marginal students. All schools are holistic in some sense, but Cal being public makes it probably less holistic than others. There really is no way to say though.</p>
<p>Anyways, I think the main thing the OP wanted to know is whether or not he has a CHANCE of getting into Stanford or MIT and getting rejected from Cal. Its not a high probability, but I would assume there is enough of a possibility there to warrant spitting out the extra time and energy for two more applications. Does that seem reasonable Xiggi?</p>