<p>Which one is better?</p>
<p>Berkeley -
In-state tuition
2nd best undergrad engineering program</p>
<p>Cornell-
9th best undergrad engineering program
Ivy League status</p>
<p>to me berkeley is the obvious choice.</p>
<p>^
Porque?</p>
<p>berekely will feel more like home...</p>
<p>plus in-state tuition is the best damn deal. with this economy and lack of guaranteed jobs post-grad you would be getting the better buck for your bang!</p>
<p>At twice the price, Cornell would be a hard sell to the parental units, particularly since Cal-Engineering is one of the big three (with MIT & Stanford). If you qualify for any finaid the answer is not so clear cut, however. </p>
<p>Things to consider:
Public vs. Private (and associated benefits).</p>
<p>Extremely competitive vs. ?</p>
<p>Urban vs. close knit community</p>
<p>Getting away from home is a real growing/learning experience.</p>
<p>Big time D1 sports (if that's important to your undergrad experience) vs. Hockey.</p>
<p>Hmm Berkeley in my opinion. Cheaper tuition! I believe Berkeley offers pretty much the same programs as Cornell does. Research, internship, co-ops, and etc.</p>
<p>If I was in your position, I'd probably do Berkeley.</p>
<p>I'm going to go against the grain here (especially as someone who chose Cornell over Berkeley a few years ago).</p>
<p>1) I don't think there's much difference in the quality of engineering education. Berkeley has a slightly better reputation but obviously Cornell is a top notch program as well. I doubt Cornell vs. Berkeley will make much of a difference when it comes to hiring.</p>
<p>2) You'll have to see how the finances work out after financial aid. Berkeley should be cheaper but if Cornell offers good FA, then that difference in cost can be mitigated. I took out only around $12,000 extra in loans over the course of 4 years to go to Cornell instead of Berkeley. It was worth it to me, even as a premed knowing I'll have to take out more loans for med school. For someone going into engineering, who'll make a decent salary right out of college, 10-15k in loans shouldn't be a big deal.</p>
<p>3) I think fit is important. I didn't like Berkeley when I visited and I was willing to give up the beautiful weather to go to Cornell. There were some other reasons as well which I won't get into. 4 years later, no regrets. I think fit is even more important for someone who is planning on doing something difficult like premed or engineering. Life is going to be tough enough already. It's going to be 3x worse if you're at a school where you're miserable.</p>
<p>Obviously, if the only reason you are even considering Cornell over Berkeley is its Ivy League status, then it's not worth coming to Cornell.</p>
<p>Berkeley.
(I'm only saying more because Berkeley is less than ten characters.)</p>
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<p>monydad could u plz stop spamming the thread</p>
<p>Your idea of what "spam" is is bizarre. These are all on-point or generally related threads, presumably helpful, and from the CC cornell forum previously, on the same or related topic.</p>
<p>But if you feel this constitutes spam, please report my post as such and we'll have the moderators decide. Because I don't, and I might well make similar posts providing links to other related on-point threads in the future.</p>
<p>Monydad -- Your post is anything but spam.</p>
<p>I would tentatively have to say Cornell, provided you feel that you can afford it. </p>
<p>For undergraduate education in engineering, there is no perceived difference between Cornell and Berkeley. Further, Cornell offers more resources per student and is an all-around better environment for undergraduates. And however hard Cornell's budget may be cut, it will pale in comparison to what the state of California is going through right now.</p>
<p>Plus, there's something to be said about getting outside of your frame of reference for your college experience.</p>
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<p>I agree. How dare he spam a thread comparing Berkeley and Cornell with threads comparing Berkeley and Cornell!</p>
<p>Berkeley has a $60 million shortfall</p>
<p>that's what i heard anyway...</p>
<p>Considering you are a senior in high school, how do you know you are in either one unless you applied early to Cornell or Cal. I know Cornell is ED so it is binding (pending financial status), but are you positive you will be accepted into both. IMO I would choose Cornell, the greater concentration on academics and sports heightens the competition among all of its sub schools.</p>
<p>this year CU-Engineering did not host a career fair...</p>
<p>I'm not an economist but will the economy turn around by the time this student is a senior?</p>
<p>Engineering did host a career fair in the fall and it was booked full. Career services actually tries to get companies from the engineering day to come to the regular day too.</p>