<p>alright sure! thanks bearcats! :)</p>
<p>Sam, I didnt mean to say Northwestern is not a good school for engineering. I have a pretty specific reason that is rather unique to IE/OR recruiting. </p>
<p>The following only applies if you want to stay in the IE/OR field after you graduate. Not many companies specifically recruit for IE/OR. It’s usually only a by-product of other recruitings. Take Ford as example. They would recruit a lot of MEs, and then hire like a couple IEs to manage their supply chain. Or take Boeing as example. They would recruit a lot of Aerospace kids, and then hire a couple IEs to their inventory control jobs.
My point is recruiting for IEs is not really dependent on the IE program strength, but rather on the overall engineering program strength and the wide base of recruiters that come in. I believe that more engineering companies recruit Cal/Michigan because of the larger and slightly more reputable engineering schools and the fact that larger % of their engineering student body are interested in entering the engineering fields. You absolutely need the NUMBER of engineering companies that come because each of them only hire a few IEs. </p>
<p>However, if you want to go outside of IE when you graduate, like consulting, quant trading, which a lot of IEs would do, then what I said really doesnt apply.</p>
<p>I hope what i said makes sense…it might be confusing …</p>
<p>Academically, I agree with Bearcats as I am sure he is quite knowledgeable (he is an Industrial Engineer at Michigan afterall). </p>
<p>However, I believe that all three schools considered are strong enough in IE (all of them are ranked among the top 10 undergraduate programs in the nation) for the OP to decide based on other criteria, such as personal preference and fit.</p>
<p>intasian, although Michigan and Cal are public, those two universities are very well funded and have huge endowments. Their financial situation and resources rival those of private universities.</p>
<p>hi alexandre! thanks for your comments. </p>
<p>u mentioned both mich and cal are well funded. however, i have some concerns with the budget cuts in Cal. will it greatly affect my education in Cal? i have a friend taking IE in there and he mentioned that the dept is pretty much affected as compared to EECS or ME where they have more private funding. real headache…</p>
<p>^ Cal is having some problems right now with lower state funding. However, most of the students I’ve talked to have not seen any real tangible effect from the cuts…except that their tuition/fee payments have increased. Despite the much ballyhooed 32% step increase over 2 years, Cal will still be in-line cost-wise with other top publics.</p>
<p>This situtation presents an opportunity for Cal to become more efficient with certain spending. They’ve hired a consulting company to make suggestions for improvements…particularly Cal is very inefficient when it comes to spending for human resources, procurement and administration. They’re looking to preserve spending for the core functions of education and research. </p>
<p>Cal has boosted its private donation campaign, increased tuition revenue, plans to admit more higher paying out-of-state students to help secure revenues to close the funding gap. In addition to this, I think the California legislature and the governor have gotten the message that we can’t keep cutting funding for education. UC and other California public colleges hope the legislature restores funding and makes cuts elsewhere. They’ll likely be successful in achieving this.</p>
<p>^^^Tough time to get money out of alumni UCB right now. Michigan’s campaign turned out to be perfectly timed.</p>
<p>le’ts staart this again
are berkeley and northwestern really that much better than michigan in the field of industrial engineering?
is it worth it to transfer to these schools for industrial engineering from michigan
and is there anything good or beneficial about michigan’s industrial engineering program?</p>
<p>(i’m in state for michigan)</p>
<p>Michigan’s IOE program consistently ranks second in the nation. Even though other engineering students often joke about being one of the easier engineering degrees at the school, it is a solid program. The school offers many good programs that supplement IOE such as EGL (bachelors+masters in engr in 5 years) and the Program in Entrepreneurship. </p>
<p>Berkeley and Northwestern are also ranked very high for IE (within the top 5 or 10). Since the rankings between Michigan and these two schools are similar, it is perfectly alright for a student to choose any one of these schools for IE. It really comes down to what the student is looking for in a college as a whole then: sports, location, overall atmosphere, affordability, etc.</p>
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How did you come to this conclusion based on the earlier posts in this thread?</p>
<p>Not sure but overall is northwestern that much better overall or worth paying double the tuition for?</p>
<p>Why are you asking this and acting as if you’re not already attending UMich? (re comment "I’m in state for Mich.)</p>
<p>From your posts on your other threads, you’ve ALREADY transferred, are ALREADY having some degree of difficulty recalibrating your academic effort, and have no money to consider other options such as NU or Cal. So reviving a dead thread as if you’re faced with another choice seems kind of odd to me.</p>
<p>If you’re looking for reassurance that Mich IOE is worth getting sorted out to do well in…the answer is YES ;)</p>
<p>^^ No. Stay at Michigan. Why spend a lot more for the same education? </p>
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Uhhh, yeah, it’s a lot cheaper for you.</p>
<p>Absolutely engineer20. Michigan is #6 in Engineering, NU is #14. Michigan is #2 in Industrial Engineering, Northwestern is #7. Michigan’s Business program is ranked #3 at the undergraduate level, NU does not have an undergraduate Business program. NU costs approximately $250,000 over 4 years (assuming you pay full cost), while Michigan costs $120,000. So to answer your question, yes, in your specific case, given your residence status and academic interests, it makes perfect sense to choose NU over Michigan. After all, why attend Michigan when you can attend a slightly weaker Engineering program for twice the price! 
But first, you need to get into both schools in order to have to make that appetizing choice.</p>