Berkeley v.s. Emory

College Search & Selection
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<p>Okay so I am stuck deciding between these two schools and I would LOVE some help :).
(Any comments regarding USC, or UCLA would also be great though)</p>

<p>Before you poke fun at me for the immense differences in both colleges, know that I am unsure what I truly want.</p>

<p>So...to provide some context...</p>

<p>I went to a small private school for 11 years (Pre-school through 9th grade), then switched to the largest public school in my state (Colorado). It was the BEST decision I have ever made. BUT thats because I HATED the kids at the small school, not because I hated how the teaching occurred or the school itself.</p>

<p>I am looking to go onto Law School and potentially get a JDMBA. Which school would prepare me better? As for a major, I am looking towards the social sciences, maybe philosophy, econ, or poly sci, but I am completely open for change :)</p>

<p>I am a very social kid and I am excited to be involved in some sort of Greek life. While I love to learn and do maintain exceptional grades, I also love to party, and I would love a great social experience. Also, attractive girls could be something to consider ;)</p>

<p>I have no problem with large schools, I can very easily assert myself, but I do love to debate material, especially with teachers.</p>

<p>Also, my girl friend is going to Santa Clara University, about 45 min from Berkeley. We are pretty close, but we aren't unrealistic about the future.</p>

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<p>You are a perfect fit for Berkeley.</p>

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<p>Thanks for the input, why?</p>

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<p>Berkeley is a large campus, which for some people, find it attractive, and thus offers a far more enjoyable campus experience than smaller ones. When you are in a large school, you’d have a community composed mainly of young population, so most activities cater to the students, not to a wide range of demographic. </p>

<p>The city of Berkeley is thriving… and culturally rich. There are lots of shops, restos and businesses that support the students’ needs and social activities. And you’d have easy access to San Francisco, a huge and thriving commercial center. </p>

<p>The facilities of Berkeley are huge, and by mere looking at them, you’ll know it right away that they must have cost a lot. Some of Berkeley’s facilities can only be found there. Berkeley is a world-class university after all. So, having the most advanced facilities is something expected of them. </p>

<p>Berkeley is, largely, a student-run university. All sorts of organizations, frats, clubs, etc abound, and are recognized by the university. Getting involved in clubs or orgs would make Berkeley atmosphere in-tact, smaller and alive. There are over several hundreds of them that exist on Berkeley campus. </p>

<p>Many intro classes at Berkeley are large. But that is also quite true in most universities. Such scenario exists even at Stanford or Harvard. On CC those things were severely exaggerated. In reality, such scenario exists even at HYPSM, the schools regarded superior to Berkeley for undergrad education. </p>

<p>And, lastly, Berkeley grads are respected by employers. Berkeley grads can head-to-head with the best of top privates’. Berkeley grads are heavily recruited by big name companies and pay them well. In fact, the biggest recruiter of Haas, for example, is McKinsey, and McKinsey is quite notorious when it comes to hiring talents. The statistics would show that Berkeley grads make more than those of the Ivies’, save for Harvard, Princeton and Dartmouth’s. </p>

<p>grad schools respect a Berkeley degree too. On most top grad or postgrad programs anywhere, Berkeley is always in the top 10, in terms of representation. Berkeley is top 6/7 at Harvard and Yale Law schools, and at Harvard Business School, for example. And, of course, it is the number one feeder school to their own graduate programs, said to be top 2 or 3 in the world.</p>

<p>Emory is great too. But Berkeley is better, and way more prestigious as a whole.</p>

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<p>. . . only in RML lala land. </p>

<p><a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/BusAd.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/BusAd.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I saw more PWC than Mckinsey. Just like Emory:</p>

<p>[Goizueta</a> Business School - Recruit at Goizueta](<a href=“http://www.goizueta.emory.edu/careermanagement/recruit/bba_statistics.html]Goizueta”>http://www.goizueta.emory.edu/careermanagement/recruit/bba_statistics.html)</p>

<p>Of course this is only a sample of graduates who responded to the survey. Are you sure about them being the bigest recruiters?? I might be wrong though.</p>

<p>The Average Salary at Goizueta is $54,934 with a median of $55,000
At Haas the average salary is $56,000 (based on 2008 figures) with a median $55,000</p>

<p>They have decent IB recruitment and All MBB Consultancy firms visit these two schools but that does not mean they will always hire anyone from there by the way. Visiting a school=getting hired. Most Berkeley grads end up in the san francisco office and most Emory grads in the Atlanta office of most firms.</p>

<p>@OP</p>

<p>There isn’t that much of a difference with emory likely providing a better liberal arts undergraduate education (except you are planning to do EECS or something very department specific) due to its undergraduate focus but if you are gunning for law school a business degree should be the last major you should target. They have a bad reputation with respect to a lack of rigor. Pick what you feel is appropriate.</p>

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<p>@ RML, Thanks for the great input!</p>

<p>While I know certainly know that CC kids over exaggerate the large class sizes and stuff at Berkeley. There has to be some benefits to the private education at Emory over the public education and Berkeley, or is there really not a difference? </p>

<p>For specific points of comparison, would advisors be worse at Berkeley?</p>

<p>I am definitely leaning towards Berkeley, but I have never visited Emory. </p>

<p>What about social life comparison to Emory?</p>

<p>Also, I know this has been asked, but Cal budget problems, what should I expect with my intended academic path?</p>

<p>@Sefago,</p>

<p>I’ve seen the charts, but thank you! I would go to Emory College though, not Goitzetta</p>

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<p>If you like sports, 'SC wins this discussion, easily, IMO. UC’s are not worth the price OOS.</p>

<p>'SC has greek, plenty of partying with attractive girls, strong enough departments. UCLA would be next.</p>

<p>If you don’t like sports, Emory is the easy choice. Emory’s classes are a lot smaller, too. For example, while nearly every college teaches Calc 1 in a large lecture hall with smaller discussion sections, Emory has Calc classes capped at 30, taught by a Prof, and offers a class nearly every hour all day for the Frosh. You would be foolish to consider a college costing $220k if you have not visited. </p>

<p>LS is all about grades+last; undergraduate pedigree does not matter.</p>

<p>edited to add: yes, advising is really bad at the UC’s.</p>

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<p>I was surprised to read this, rml. Do you have a link/source?</p>

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<p>Could still use more people’s opinions</p>

<p>bump</p>

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<p>"You are a perfect fit for Berkeley. "</p>

<p>I agree minus the fraternity part, there is not much of a frat culture at more UC’s.</p>

<p>“yes, advising is really bad at the UC’s.”</p>

<p>This is GARBAGE. The UC’s are sink or swim. If you seek out advising and are diligent about it you will get it. Of course this is not Emory where you will have more hands on advising, you need to make appointments, show up and do so as often as you like and be assertive, respectful and nice, but also assertive. The UC’s are very much the “real world” in that sense (and any larger campus really)</p>

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<p>I realize that many people like to look through others’ garbage, but advising at most UC stinks, particularly for professional schools like med and law. Other colleges have faculty members who sole responsibility it to help you win a Rhodes, or a Fullbright or get into med/law school. Cal has no such folks. UC has few such folks total. UMich, a ‘real world’, ‘large campus’ has such types of advisors. </p>

<p>Cal’s Career Services will help you find a job – great for all of the Econ majors.</p>

<p>But your point is well taken sistokid and only serves to reinforce my point which is, why pay $50k for services you have to go fight for (or “sink”), when a school like Emory has advisors that will come and find you? At half the price (instate rates), such a hassle can be clearly worth it. But at the same price? What kinda prop value is that?</p>

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<p>Why would you make this assumption? </p>

<p>Berkeley would be a great place to spend four years. Despite the budget problems, Berkeley will continue to enjoy a great reputation around the world. Either school will get you to law/business school–you will have to do well at either and ace the LSAT/GMAT if you want to get to a top professional school. However, this is the case for any college. However, Berkeley does have top law and business schools and there is a great percentage of Cal undergrads in those programs. I suppose the same can be said of Emory, although its law and business schools aren’t as renowned. Cal also offers an exciting sports experience. Although the Bears have not been the same since ARod"gers" left for Green Bay… </p>

<p>The Bay Area is also a great place to go to college. Coming from Colorado, I think you would love taking trips to Tahoe, Yosemite or Carmel…</p>

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<p>Thanks guys!</p>

<p>So what resources are out there at Berkeley then, specifically like people that help you become a Rhodes Scholar or get into law school. If the people are there I am diligent enough to find them and take advantage of that. In fact, I LOVE being the one having to take the initiative b/c it means the lazy kids sink while I swim, and helps me.</p>

<p>Also, what about the social life between the two?</p>

<p>and what about the intelligence of the student bodies?</p>

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<p>Source please?</p>

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<p>Look at US News rankings. I am too lazy - both are top 7-10 </p>

<p>Also, if you go to Berkeleys Law site, it states UCB is the most popular school.</p>

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<p>Search YouTube for “fun at Emory”…classic! ;)</p>

<p>Blue, Berkeley is worth OOS tuition. That’s my opinion…of course, you’re entitled to yours.</p>

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<p>^^In your field UCB, I totally agree (and have frequently posted same). Cal’s Chem & Engineering are among the best in the world, and worth the price of admission.</p>

<p>But one can be a poli sci major anywhere and go to law school. It just takes a bunch of A’s. Heck, a 4.0 from a Cal state and really strong LSAT score will be a near-********* to most law schools, including Harvard.</p>

<p>hahahaha;</p>

<p>not sure what was wrong with my term “auto - admit”</p>

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<p>UCB Chem, why?</p>

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<p>^ Greatest public university in the nation…all academic departments are among the best…Pac-10/12 sports…lively college city…intellectual, student-oriented, activism vibe, beautiful setting and campus overlooking the San Francisco Bay…culture, amenities, diversity, and natural beauty of one of the worlds great metropolitan areas…</p>

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<p>@UCB, well said</p>

<p>So what advantages would I have at Berkeley that I wouldn’t have at Emory?</p>

<p>and what advantages would I have at Emory that I wouldn’t have at Berkeley?</p>

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<p>bump 10char</p>