<p>Are you a Penn student ? so sad.</p>
<p>gugupo, you’re building a lot of bad will with your future employers</p>
<p>^He’s unemployable, necro. People possessed by such anger, rage, and self-hate cannot hold down a job. Spamming is all that left for them.</p>
<p>^ LOL
Please remember that most people know that Penn is an easiest Ivy to get into.</p>
<p>Ignore this doofus</p>
<p>Everyone knows gugupo is a ■■■■■. The CC moderator (if he/she even moderates) is asleep at the switch when it comes to his posts.</p>
<p>Penn for some majors. Berkeley for others. Penn for business. Berkeley, hands down, for engineering. Regarding budget cuts at the UC’s, it depends on what your major is as to how it affects you. The engineering school is Berkeley is stable and not experiencing issues. With regards to class size, major is also a factor. Berkeley is large, but the number of students in the engineering school is only around 2900 undergrads. The amount of students in your technical classes can be quite small. Bottom line, is both are excellent schools. Where you go depends on what you want to do and where you feel most comfortable.</p>
<p>For Science : Berkeley >> Penn
Engineering : Berkeley >> Penn
Math : Bekeley >> Penn
Social Science : Berkeley >> Penn
Undergrad Business : Berkeley Haas ~= Penn Wharton</p>
<p>Overall : Berkeley >> Penn</p>
<p>can we block his IP?</p>
<p>No no, let him keep blabbing about all his nonsense, its funny.</p>
<p>For Intelligence: A dim-witted tree slug >> gugupo
Reasoning: A box of rocks >> gugupo
Charm: A rabid bat >> gugupo
Social Skills: Sewer sludge >> gugupo
Likeability: gugupo ~= BP</p>
<p>Overall level of self-hate and anger: gugupo >> the rest of humanity</p>
<p>hahahah quite accurate I believe</p>
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<p>Old news. That’s true of every university, except for possibly Harvard and Stanford. What schools like Penn, Columbia and Brown have to offer is much less about overall academic strength (which is still excellent), and much more about SELECTIVITY, wherein Berkeley is absolutely demolished by the entire Ivy League, including Cornell.</p>
<p>I disagree with the social science assessment. Penn Engineering is, indeed, not the school’s strong point. Have no basis to comment on the other points.</p>
<p>gugupo, Haas should be pronounced with the ‘H’ silent to reflect the prestige and relative strength to Wharton.</p>
<p>muerteapablo- I do agree that Penn is overall more selective. However for a top student at Berkeley who can skip elementary courses this is not really a problem. At least in the sciences and math they will soon be in fairly small classes with other strong students
and they can interact with top professors. For an average student at Berkeley this type of interaction is perhaps not as large a benefit. However the very best students at Berkeley,
say the top 10% this type of interaction is invaluable. </p>
<p>For a more typical student I would accept your point although the word demolished
is a little strong. For example the electrical engineering students are probably not demolished by Penn students.</p>
<p>^ What about the chemical engineering students? ;)</p>
<p>UCBChemEgrad- You tell me but I expect it is the same! Are the chemical engineering undergraduate students admitted along with chemists into the college of chemistry?</p>
<p>^ Yes, Berkeley’s College of Chemistry houses chemistry, chemical engineering and chemical biology majors.</p>
<p>UCBChemEGrad- I imagine that the college of chemistry would be an amazing place
for a high performing undergrad who knows that chemistry is what they want to do.
Is that correct or would you say that only the graduate student really take advantage of
the school?</p>
<p>^ Berkeley’s CoC is a great place for an undergrad. Chemistry isn’t a very popular major. There are about 180 chemistry undergrads total (~ 50 per class). The smaller college environment affords tremendous opportunity for an undergrad chemistry major to work with top profs in the field.</p>