Berkeley VS Stanford -- which is better and why :)

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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it's a figure of speech. and it could be true.

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<p>Uh, if it was a figure of speech, then why did you use the adjective "literally"? Seems to me that you didn't believe it to be a figure of speech, but that you actually literally believed it to be true. </p>

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Why do you bring up 5 companies that made it?

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<p>Because it shows quite simply that if what you say is *literally true *- which were your words - then 5 highly successful Silicon Valley startups would have to be countered with 5 million failures. Do you believe there are literally 5 million failures? If not, then why did you use the word 'literally'? </p>

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Do you hear from folded startups?

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<p>Again, see above. Are there really 5 million folded startups in Silicon Valley? There aren't even 5 million total people in Silicon Valley. In fact, there are barely even half that many people. </p>

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Anyway, OP should go to Stanford, join a startup, and pray for the next big break. That is if OP thinks he's likely to get

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<p>I don't even think it's a matter of praying for the next big break. Frankly, there are numerous other reasons for joining a startup. First off, many startups actually pay higher salaries than do the established firms. {Note, that's just because there are just lots and lots of startups with a high variance in pay conditions, meaning some will pay better while others will pay worse, so you can simply choose to not work for the ones who pay worse.} That's right - you get a higher salary and you get a shot at becoming rich. Secondly, startups tend to offer far more interesting work. You have far more freedom to do what you want and shape your career than you do in a large firm. </p>

<p>The only issue is the matter of risk, and like I said, if you're supporting a family and a mortgage, then sure, startups may not be the way to go. But if you're young and have no commitments, that is precisely the time that you can take the risk. Your startup folds, so what? Just join another one. Like you said, new startups are founded all the time, so you can always find another one to join.</p>

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<p>Ok, whatever. OP will choose Stanford like 95% of them. This thread is pointless.</p>

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<p>Cross admit battle between Berkeley and Stanford, Stanford wins 99:1</p>

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<p>unlimitedx, it's only 95% of the time that stanford wins cross admit (published figure)
Who knows, it might be even higher. In fact, you can say no one turned down Stanford for Berkeley and people will believe you.</p>

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<p>^ link? i saw a published figure and it was 1% of time that Berkeley wins. can't seem to find the link..</p>

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<p>OP is just one of those idiots who wants to post his successes on this board. Good on you for getting into Stanford, but don't waste people's time with your pointless questions. </p>

<p>Dolt</p>

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<p>Frankly, I really doubt it's nearly that clear cut, at least in the "general population" outside of this site, where the USNWR ranking seems to be the gospel.</p>

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<p>this thread is making me sad, i am doing CS at Berkeley</p>

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<p>don't be. cs at berk is great, though student interest in cs and eecs is definitely not the same anymore</p>

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<p>The</a> New York Times > Week in Review > Image > Collegiate Matchups: Predicting Student Choices</p>

<p>Here's the 5% in favor of Berkeley source. Now, where is your source unlimitedx? Not that Stanford didn't win already.</p>

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<p>hi middsmith, that source is the one i was thinking about-my mistake</p>

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<p>I think this post to to inflate the OPs ego that he got into Stanford..</p>

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<p>^ I don't know about that. According to the OP's other posts he's choosing between Claremont McKenna and Berkeley. I thought it was Stanford and Berkeley? The internet...</p>

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<p>I doubt the guy is even considering cal as he has not posted in these forums. If he even had some interest in Cal he would at least respond to the thread he started!</p>

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<p>I personally think this is a fake account, after reading the other posts. The OP wrote in another thread that he is majoring in Legal Studies, not Computer Science.</p>

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<p>eh, its still an interesting discussion regardless.</p>

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<p>Go</a> bears - The Stanford Daily Online</p>

<p>This was an article posted in the Stanford daily. It may help clear up some facts I hope :D</p>

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<p>Mmmm, yeah knowing the EECS department firsthand (though not currently in it) - I know there are really brilliant students to be spoken of. I'm not sure if someone's mentioned this, but I'd consider comparing how the two programs are run aside from this "easy" and "hard" business. Both are supposed to be great programs, but I'm sure there are big differences in how the material is organized.</p>

<p>I'll be applying to math grad school in some years, and know a factor for me to choose among schools of similar prestige is their requirements. Being more comfortable with what I'm required to do would probably make me at home and help me make the difficult transition to research math. </p>

<p>For undergrad, this aspect boils down really to how the courses are structured, since that's really what a lot of undergrad is -- taking classes. More so than grad school at least.</p>

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<p>This is, assuming the poster believes he's very capable of handling the subject, and has made a mature decision about it -- because if not, I think there's a higher likelihood, as sakky says, of flunking out of Berkeley than there is at Stanford. And I don't think making it to Stanford necessarily means being fit for EE or CS (at either Stanford or Berkeley)...there are lots of reasons people are admitted to Stanford, as has been made clear by students from the school itself. </p>

<p>So my advice above assumes the OP has carefully concluded that he can handle the subject matter.</p>

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<p>Stanford is full of conservative think tanks like the Hoover Institute. = Bad</p>