Berkeley VS Stanford -- which is better and why :)

<p>Berkeley is full of liberals wearing tank tops who only think. = Bad</p>

<p>^ what's wrong with liberals who think?</p>

<p>Nothing is wrong with liberals who think.</p>

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<p>They only think - they never do.</p>

<p>^ Nothing is wrong with "liberals who think" being around Berkeley campus. But it is "bad" as what sunfish said when they dominate (full) the whole campus atmosphere. Berkeley students should concentrate more on studying rather than getting themselves more involved in activism.</p>

<p>activism is a good thing. The only problem is that the tree people were making up fake causes, especially the crap about the Native American bones. (Yes, those bones are really are in Hearst gym basement, but the Native American bones are older than Native American civilization and don't have cultural remains indicative of any specific tribe)</p>

<p>anon5524485> My favorite is the guy on campus (non-student) who calls himself ‘Contrary’ (yes… that’s actually what he calls himself) who claims that the university won’t release the bones because they all have bullet holes in the back of their heads…</p>

<p>For all> The Tree people weren’t Cal students. They were local (and some not-so-local) activists.</p>

<p>Well here's what I say about young leftist activists... if you want change, go study so that you can infiltrate and be the system, don't just yell at the system. It's annoying.</p>

<p>I think it's pointless to compare which school is better academic program wise, because they are both good schools and many people in the world will do anything to get into either of the schools.</p>

<p>But if I were you I would choose Stanford, because I think you will be much more comfortable there. They treat their students better.</p>

<p>Sure, it's pretty pointless I agree -- both have great departments, and are reputed for being "really good at almost everything." I think Stanford, as sakky has many times posted, cushions its undergrads better, and coming from a Berkeley student, that's not really a bad thing, and can be good. But I'd look more into which campus I like, how specific courses and programs are structured, and make my decision as such. If you're spending 4 years in a college, you can't just like its level of prestige, you have to like how it structures its courses and stuff like that.</p>

<p>For instance, supposedly going to Harvey Mudd is a bad idea unless you think you'd like their core subjects. I am a very dedicated math student, but don't think I could've been enough into the rest of their core, so I'd not have been really happy there, I can tell. </p>

<p>Take a look at the requirements and all those things, and see which is better fit for you.</p>

<p>If you are asking this question, then you are too stupid for Stanford. You're better off at UC Riverside.</p>

<p>UCLA's better than both of them. :)</p>

<p>UCLA is better than... UCSD.</p>

<p>Cal>UCLA>Stanfurd</p>

<p>Okay, I am in Speech and Debate class and i need Testimonial evidence and analogical evidence on why UC Berkeley is better than Stanford.</p>

<p>I always LOL when I see these morons around here walking around pontificating the wonders of socialism, wearing their Che shirts and acting like complete idiots…if only they knew…</p>

<p>I’ve seen at least five within the past week renouncing capitalism, democracy, and the United States in general.</p>

<p>condensation, to be able to answer your question, try to ask international students who have a different perception about Berkeley and Stanford, or US schools in general.</p>

<p>University of California at Berkeley and Stanford University are both very good schools that are in the Top Tier Colleges, which also include Harvard University, Princeton University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Yale University. When it comes to a direct comparison between Berkeley and Stanford, there is really not much of a difference between the institutions’ prestige in the US and in the world. In my opinion, what makes Stanford and Berkeley so outstanding from other schools, especially the Ivy Leagues, is that both universities are excellent in all academic disciplines: from Arts & Humanities to Engineering. You can hardly find a globally-recognized engineering program at Harvard, Yale, or Princeton; neither can you find a prestigious Arts & Humanities program at MIT. </p>

<p>Coming back to the comparsion between Stanford and Berkeley, I find that students from both universities receive prestigious job offers from well-knowned corporations, banks, and government agencies. The following is where some of the Stanford students went to after graduation (Undergraduate):</p>

<ul>
<li>Hoover Institution</li>
<li>US Senate</li>
<li>Teach for America</li>
<li>Google</li>
<li>Richard Lewis Architect</li>
<li>GAP</li>
<li>Goldman Sachs</li>
<li>Nokia</li>
<li>Exxon Mobil</li>
<li>Boston Consulting Group</li>
<li>Walt Disney</li>
<li>Schusterman Foundation</li>
<li>Pepsi Co</li>
<li>Yahoo</li>
<li>Microsoft</li>
</ul>

<p>(etc…)</p>

<p>Here are some of the job positions that Berkeley Senior students got after graduation:</p>

<ul>
<li>Accenture</li>
<li>Bain and Company</li>
<li>Bank of America</li>
<li>Blackstone Group</li>
<li>Citibank</li>
<li>Credit Suisse</li>
<li>Facebook</li>
<li>Google</li>
<li>JP Morgan Chase</li>
<li>McKinsey Company</li>
<li>Procter & Gamble</li>
<li>VISA Inc</li>
<li>Prudential Inc</li>
<li>IBM Corporation</li>
<li>US Department of Defense</li>
</ul>

<p>(* Got this information from Career Centers at UC Berkeley and at Stanford University)</p>

<p>As you can see, both Stanford and Berkeley grads get extremeley good job offers from the world’s most well renowned companies in the world. Hence, I really think that there is almost no difference when it comes to the comparison between these two excellent institutions.</p>

<p>However, there is one thing that future college applicants should be aware of. Berkeley’s academics are extremeley tough and as Sakky mentioned, they may teach you topics that can be highly sophisticated. Nevertheless, Berkeley’s academics do have a reputation and you may be able to better prepare for life. Afterall, what is college for?</p>

<p>Cal. The city is awesome, the people are awesome, the programs are awesome.</p>

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<p>MIT has a philosophy department of comparable rank to Harvard. I consider philosophy to be a type of humanities. </p>

<p>[Complete</a> Rankings of Philosophy Departments Based on Hirsch Numbers | Certain Doubts](<a href=“http://el-prod.baylor.edu/certain_doubts/?p=773]Complete”>http://el-prod.baylor.edu/certain_doubts/?p=773)</p>

<p>@Theophilius that was a great post</p>