Berkeley VS USC

<p>When will we hear about the USC financial aid package?</p>

<p>Some students have posted on the USC Facebook Class of 2014 they have received their financial aid packages. I do not know where these students live.</p>

<p>^ They are posted online on USConnect. Do they mail them out also?</p>

<p>I’m from the northeast, Rhode Island to be specific. In my experience USC has a better reputation than UC Berkeley but I guess I am mistaken, either way they are both excellent schools. Can anyone let me know the areas that UCB trumps USC because the latter seems to have the advantages with smaller classes, more diversity, etc, etc.</p>

<p>Zoso727:</p>

<p>I suspect you’re a ■■■■■, and this post is old, but I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and answer your question honestly. And, more importantly, set the record straight.</p>

<p>How does UCB trump USC? The question should be the other way around. Berkeley trumps USC in every way possible except football and pretty (and maybe stupid) people. USC is an overpriced private school that has ridden its athletic programs and LA location to greater fame than it would otherwise have. Berkeley is one of the world’s most famous universities. That is a simple fact. You see kids in Egypt, England and Estonia walking around with Berkeley t-shirts on, and learned people in every university in the world know what Berkeley is. In a ranking done by a famous Chinese university, Berkeley ranked third in the WORLD (after Harvard and Stanford)…USC was 46th. </p>

<p>[ARWU</a> 2009](<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp]ARWU”>http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp)</p>

<p>Berkeley is also higher ranked by US News. Rankings are BS, you say? Ok, fine. How about Nobel Prize winners by university affiliation? Berkeley is 6th in the world with 60+ versus USC’s ONE.</p>

<p>[List</a> of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation]List”>List of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>More Berkeley students also go on to earn PhDs than graduates of any other university. Oh, into physical sciences? Well Berkeley is the worldwide mecca of particle physics and chemistry and other sciences. Take a look at the heavier-than-uranium elements of the periodic table if you’re in doubt. Californium. Berklium. And many others named after Berkeley professors and scientists. About a dozen.</p>

<p>Berkeley has an amazing cuture of intellectual curiosity, and your peers would be unsurpassed. At USC, well, I guess the frat parties are fun. And the girls are hotter.</p>

<p>Half of your Berkeley professors will have written the textbook that they’re using down at USC. </p>

<p>As for diversity, the student body profiles are pretty similar so your more diversity claim is without merit, but class size may be a legitimate concern. Still, if you’re proactive and seek out your professors, you’ll get to know them. And as you get into upper-division courses, class sizes shrink. There are plenty with only a few dozen people. And you can definitely graduate within four years. </p>

<p>And don’t let the “well Berkeley is a better grad school than undergraduate school” thing get you either. All that means is that my argument above is even more applicable if we’re talking about grad school. In that case you’d truly be an idiot to choose USC, rather than just making a poor decision.</p>

<p>Lastly, spend a day walking around Berkeley and one walking around south-central Los Angeles. See if that helps make up your mind. Oh, and the Berkeley campus is absolutely gorgeous too. The USC one isn’t bad but nothing to write home about.</p>

<p>I’m done.</p>

<p>…did you honestly make an account simply to respond to a post questioning Berkeley’s prestige made almost 3 months ago? Holy **** bro. I am speechless. I am without speech. I have no speech!</p>

<p>Baffling, truly.</p>

<p>^ I would have said the same thing, except I was speechless. Toooooo funny!</p>

<p>post #25= biggest waste of time in the history of the CC forums</p>

<p>runtheratrace - You needed to revive a three month old thread just to write an essay on how you think a school sucks?</p>

<p>I don’t think Zoso is the ■■■■■.</p>

<p>^agree
runtheratrace, in my opinion, I think your comments are just too…extreme.</p>

<p>runtheratrace, come back when you have something intelligent to say. Thank you, don’t come again.</p>

<p>^yeah…runtheratrace, don’t ever post your comment again until you know how to respect a school.</p>

<p>C’mon folks, I think you’re all being a little tough on runtheratrace. He’s obviously provided a service to us all by confirming what many of us have always suspected - that UCB-types are pompous, socially bereft “intellectual” blowhards. D’oh! I’ve fallen into the trap of mindless stereotypes instead of open-minded research.</p>

<p>Frankly, runrat’s “hissy” fit does more to promote USC than UCB.</p>

<p>Haha, what I love that I have heard numerous Berkeley kids say “I chose the wrong school” when they came to visit USC. And I swear nearly all of my friends got into UCB, UCLA and random ivies but chose USC. I guess you just dont get it unless you go here or have family who went here… Or your just blessed.</p>

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<p>I fail to see how it was extreme. Yes, it was poorly timed but he did support each of his statements with facts from legitimate resources. </p>

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<p>Again, he used factual evidence to support his position. Fail to see how that is unintelligent.</p>

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<p>Absolutely. We all know the actions of one person are the best way to judge an entire school.</p>