<p>Yeah I like my own screwed situation lol,</p>
<p>I constantly see people flood their apps with such and such community service such and such clubs etc.
In my point of view isn't that superfluous? Wouldn't a college prefer a app with concrete evidence of dedication to a minimal amount of things rather than seeing a applicant with a long list of things with no concrete evidence to backup their dedication?</p>
<p>So what if your the president of 20 different clubs, it wont hurt yet what is the reputation of your world of clubs? You split your 100% fanatical NRG in managing your world and it all amounts to nothing. </p>
<p>If you have no concrete evidence to show that all those organizations of yours are done with the utmost perfection, it amounts to nothing.</p>
<p>My friend graduated this year, she had a 1400-1500 SAT I and SAT II's were above 700 yet all lower than 750. her wGPA was 4.2 (crappy).
By the stats above, clearly she would have a hard time getting into Ivy.
The key was her EC'S, she constantly devoted herself to the schools chemistry team yet never made it year by year for 3 years since our schools chem team has won every regional (public schools) for 14 years with the exception of 1998 (I also have done the same yet made it and won this year). She didn't mention this although she should've. </p>
<p>No awards, no internships, no desire to get a job etc. She followed her heart, stuck with a aeronautics club that we started 2 years ago and made it even more physics related than the physics club which just did nothing except compete for president etc. Our aero club was huge not by size, but by reputation. We are blocking new applicants this year b/c everyone heard it was a good org and wants to join b/c it will GET THEM TO COLLEGE and not b/c they like it. Our supervisor is actually making the joining process much like applying for a internship...its not even a academic club. Although i am officially president in the club, it has been 2 months since anyone including myself has brought it up. We don't compete but we are a big team and that makes us extra strong. This club curved her stats tremendously in my point of view, the team notion which I and her highly value.</p>
<p>She has done community service at one site and one site only since middle school along with me and that is it, no other mumble jumble, it is only a nature center directed at the community, not national defense or some high science research.</p>
<p>When the founders of our school chemistry club made it, it was crappy like hell, everyone competing, gathering at lunch to talk about how i'll kiss your buttocks if you'll kiss mine. The most popular got the majority vote and became president. Purpose of club, to raise cash. Purpose with cash, none given. I was suspicious of what was done with the money yet never found out. Me and her teamed up and with my reputation for being the worst person to argue against and her bright knowledge, we were elected as pres and treasurer. Then I personally humiliated every one of those money eating lowclasses and shut them out, all 8 left the club, never found the money, club account was handed over with 20$ out of at least 400$ the club made. Then I transferrred the club into a different reliable supervisor's hands rather than have the previous teacher do it. Then we got rid of the whole president, vp, treasurer etc system and made the membership universal. With that action 24 members stepped out. She made a tutoring system in our school and OUT TO OTHERS for chemistry help and it is so successful that we get at least 20+ kids every afterschool session we hold with over half from other schools mondays and fridays. I guess people came because it was free of charge and somehow we taught good? Like aero everyone wants in so barriers of qualifications and devotional issues were set in place. Now there is a advancedChem club and Chem club, you must be a member of chem club for a year with teacher recommendation to reach advancedchem club. Seniors and juniors only needed teacher rec b/c they wouldn't have time. </p>
<p>advChem, Chemclub and Aero club has been our devotion in reform and unity as a team. I wouldn't trade any part of it for what some people have on their EC's. She got accepted into 2 out of 3 ivy's (what is wrong with the 3rd...) and all 4 other schools. That is a 6/7 which is fairly good. Her EC looks like:</p>
<p>EC's:
chemclub
aeroclub
community service at a nature center for 5 years</p>
<p>Me and her value devotion, constant improvement, truth and above all teamwork. I hope College's agree. </p>
<p>In my point of view which may be totally wrong, your EC's look like mostly all other EC's to berk and your scoring calibur isn't as high when compared to most people who get in. Berk is a top organization in the world, not just a school. I am terrified at its achievements, when your app looks like everyone else's, and not better in some aspects... what are your chances? </p>
<p>My friend and I took a risk and it surely paid off well for her, we strived to center not at accomplishing things that LOOK like our sole purpose in life was to get into college, maybe all those EC's were your true devotions, maybe not, regardless of all that, your stats are just like everyone. We strived to accomplish things that LOOKED and truthfully felt like it was our interest and we wanted to change things for the better rather than join a club to compete for all the presidents and awards.</p>
<p>What would a high calibur school do if its students always fought with one another? Nobody wants that!!! Teamwork is key to us and I am pretty sure key to any organization, yes I struck some people down but I did give them chances to walk out slowly without creating a scene. HAHA, now those people can only write on their apps that they were founders of a club and this asian kid robbed it away from them. </p>
<p>Me and my friend both have wGPA's 4.0-4.6... SAT I's 1400-1550,
SAT II's 700-800's, no internship, no job, EC's are 3 lines long...</p>
<p>Just enough to be at the minimal point of entering a competitive Univ. , our concrete supports of our daily social life backed by teacher rec's, community letters etc. gave us a huge bump to our stats... it showed a part of our personality and if I were a University, that is what I would value the most. Only schools that won't accept kids like us are probably score centered places, I won't name any since that might be seen as a act of disreputation to some. ooooo how i want to bulldoze down those schools.</p>
<p>Good luck on your app, you'll need lots of luck. And if your asian, you'll need tons of luck.</p>