<p>Bush is eligible for the nobel prize also!!!!!!!</p>
<p>There's not harm in dreaming! :)</p>
<p>lol stardragon you nailed that one about primitive being a muslim/arab i knew nobody in their right mind would just be against Bush just for the sake of it</p>
<p>yeah whatever. If you didnt notice, you were denounced by your own conservative buddies, and also that nobody is actually responding to you. Keep cheerleading because conservatives need your cheer!</p>
<p>i knew nobody in their right mind would just be against</p>
<p>tell that to the 48% of Americans who voted for Kerry.</p>
<p>And to make things clear, I am AMERICAN. My race plays no role in hating Bush. But I have all the reason in the world to hate biggots like you.</p>
<p>You are the first person on the face of the Earth that I have ever met that liked Arafat. Republicans and Democrats alike did not approve of anything that he did. The entire mideast peace process was destroyed because of his actions. Siding with a murderer and thief shows your character.</p>
<p>And so few of you? Who are you trying to kid. This is a COLLEGE message board, and there are TONS of Democrats on here. Much more than Republicans.</p>
<p>Did I say I liked Arafat? And if he was so hated then obviously he wouldnt have recieved the Nobel Prize. So he did try to promote peace in the Middle East. I say that Sharon and Arafat are both corrupt leaders who failed to extiguish bitterness in the Middle East.</p>
<p>And so few of you? Who are you trying to kid. This is a COLLEGE message board, and there are TONS of Democrats on here. Much more than Republicans.</p>
<p>What are you talking about?</p>
<p>actually...there are plenty of ppl that are against Bush just for the heck of it...i'm a Pakistani Muslim, and I think he's done a HORRIBLE job....as do about 80% of the ppl I associate with (i have a feeling i'm going to have to add this in, because nationalist fundamentalists tend to assume that I associate with only Muslims....but 85% of the ppl I associate with are white protestants...5% are black....and then the other 10% are Muslims or Hindus).....including my girlfriend's brother whose a hardcore conservative. </p>
<p>dude....I'm like literally dying right now...that was absolutely hilarious...Bush eligible for a Nobel Prize...for what? Physics? Peace? he's just as likely to be eligible for either.</p>
<p>and on that note about Palestine...I liked Arafat alot better than I like Sharon....he is just as bad (or worse) a murderer as Arafat...personally i think this whole conflict is a bunch of bull****...it's basically ppl who refuse to be tolerant of those different than themselves...funny how both Islam and Judaism stress peace, yet Palestinian militants and Sharon refuse to emphasize on that little aspect..i personally think the U.S. should have nothing to do with that conflict, unless it's to mediate peace talks...that way, it's not violating the strict separation between religion and state, and it's actually helping both out....military assistance to one side or the other just prolongues the conflict and breeds ill will towards the U.S....</p>
<p>now....you keep trying to say Bush vetoed the act because of his "moral" values...partly...perhaps....but not entirely...i'd say moral value was only in his head 5% of the time..the other 95% was dominated by political interests....he's got a repuation to hold on to...i'm not arguing on this issue anymore...you keep asking the same questions after you get an answer, you're not arguing any point...you are a CHEERLEADER...now take your pom poms somewhere else...you officially lost taht former debate.</p>
<p>...you are a CHEERLEADER...now take your pom poms somewhere else...you officially lost taht former debate.</p>
<p>Get a dictionary and check the word "cheerleader." I did nothing close to cheerleading. Also who says you won the debate? You? I am dying of laughter!! Get real!</p>
<p>And what do you really know about politics in the Middle East? The whole conflict between Israel and Palestine is really serious and critical. I suggest you actually read about it before you make another "self analysis." (notice that I am refraining from personal attacks with you which further shows I am the more mature between us).</p>
<p>Both arafat and sharon are ruthless dictators. Debating who is worse is just another childish argument you are trying to start. I dont think Abbas and Karzai will be good leaders. Period.</p>
<p>actually...I have read about it....you keep saying "self analysis" like it's not valid...you idiot..unlike you, I only speak on subjects I actually know about...I don't need a damn source every time I make a statement, because I am confident my argument is valid...and you did everything close to cheerleading...either cheerleading or verbal abuse..that's all your'e good for...you dont' prove any significant points...you just state your opinion (which you can't back up).</p>
<p>you know....I think we won the debate when it got to the point when you were like "give me sources sources" which also means "i'm backed in a corner and i'm trying to sound smart by asking them to bring up every website on the net on the topic...and even if they do, i'm going to ask for more, because i can't admit when i'm wrong".</p>
<p>Who cares how critical the conflict is? It shouldnt' be critical to the U.S....any idiot knows it's a religous conflict, and the U.S. should play no part in favoring one religion over another....this is a government of people, not of dieties, temples, mosques, and religous taboos.</p>
<p>And, it doesn't matter if you don't make direct attacks (which you do constantly, so don't try to cover your own ass by trying to put the heat on someone else), you imply that my "self analysis," is unintellegent...which, it is based on numerous political science, sociology, anthropology, and philosophy courses, and my interpretation of the Constitution/Supreme Court cases from what I've been taught of them. I can atleast come up with a point of view that others can relate to...you, on the other hand, merely state an off the wall opinion without providing any relevent information. You are young and naive. You're VERY immature...the world/government works one way in your head, and you get hostile whenever ppl try to correct you. Accept defeat when it hits you on the head, quit digging the hole you've dug for yourself any deeper...your views are plagued with contradictions and vagueness.</p>
<p>I only speak on subjects I actually know about...I don't need a damn source every time I make a statement, because I am confident my argument is valid...and you did everything close to cheerleading...either cheerleading or verbal abuse..that's all your'e good for...you dont' prove any significant points...you just state your opinion (which you can't back up).</p>
<p>Stop being so ignorant. I am also confident that my argument is valid. And I did not close to cheerlead. Verbal abuse? You need glasses. I never made a persoanl attack to you. You are the one who making verbal abuses by calling me a cheerleader and an idiot. Please, try to be a bit more mature to suit your age! I officially won this debate. The whole point of a debate is you cant make arguments unless you can prove/support them when asked for. Remember, just because YOU say something , doesnt mean its always right. And I never made a personal attack on you.</p>
<p>it is based on numerous political science, sociology, anthropology, and philosophy courses, and my interpretation of the Constitution/Supreme Court cases from what I've been taught of them. I can atleast come up with a point of view that others can relate to...you, on the other hand, merely state an off the wall opinion without providing any relevent information. You are young and naive. You're VERY immature...the world/government works one way in your head, and you get hostile whenever ppl try to correct you. Accept defeat when it hits you on the head, quit digging the hole you've dug for yourself any deeper...your views are plagued with contradictions and vagueness.</p>
<p>riiiiiiiight! That looks like Chappelle material! Keep working at it!! Maybe you can be a good comedian at Comedy central :)</p>
<p>you make no sense.........you may try to cover yourself, but it's obvious that you subliminally put others' views down, because you're too hard headed to understand that not everyone will agree with you. Are you so confident that your views are valid that you don't have to present facts or statistics to prove it? Because you haven't. You won no debate...you've lost a couple in this thread. I can prove and support any view I hold...I don't base my views on superficial things like hatred for a certain individual (i.e. the Pres)....I look in to things, and I bring my knowledge of the subject up. You are a young highschool student that hasn't entered the real world quite yet...you will realize the value of being able to articulate an argument without the use of someone else's material when you get to college</p>
<p>boy, you're as funny as Chappelle...</p>
<p>i have a feeling that this thread is gonna die soon. :)</p>
<p>sigh, primitive, i hate to tell you this, but i don't think you're smart enough to be the politition you aspire to become. Now, i'm certainly not saying iq is everything. If you had a decent eq, or the power to impassionate people(like Hitler did), or a magnanimous and charismatic personality(like Washington did), you'd still have a chance. unfotunately, i have seen none of those attributes in you, and believe me primitive, those are vital ingredients required to formulate a decent politician esp in a democratic society. </p>
<p>Hate to put it so bluntly, but it's true primitive, you have neither the degree of intelligence nor the degree of empathy, nor the insight into the future essential to a decent politician. :) Okay?</p>
<p>lol. Neither did Bush.</p>
<p>oh i don't know about that, bush actually appealed a lot to the christian evangelists.</p>
<p>Muslim hater, Me? haha, don't be silly, i merely said I don't like them due to unpleasant past encounters with them. This has nothing to do with race or religion. Nevertheless, if you side with primitive only because you hate bush with a passion, then i suggest you watch yourself.</p>
<p>Muslim hater, Me? haha, don't be silly, i merely said I don't like them due to unpleasant past encounters with them.</p>
<p>So you dont like them because of an incident? Thats unreasonable. No more comments.</p>
<p>"dude....I'm like literally dying right now...that was absolutely hilarious...Bush eligible for a Nobel Prize...for what? Physics? Peace? he's just as likely to be eligible for either."</p>
<p>Its true look it up...its for something about the middle east.</p>
<p>"I only speak on subjects I actually know about...I don't need a damn source every time I make a statement, because I am confident my argument is valid...and you did everything close to cheerleading...either cheerleading or verbal abuse..that's all your'e good for...you dont' prove any significant points...you just state your opinion (which you can't back up)."</p>
<p>WOW your so cool...you must be an expert at...well....EVERYTHING....</p>
<p>"This whole argument of Primitive being an arab--therefore hating Bush just for the sake of hating Bush--this is just nonsense"</p>
<p>WHY? why is it nonsense??????????????</p>
<p>damn....i guess it's reasonable for me to not like germans, because hitler comitted genocide....or for me to not like british ppl, because King George opressed the founding fathers...or for me to not like Japanese ppl, because of Pearl Harbor...or for me to not like white ppl, because they enslaved blacks in America for over 2 centuries...that's rational.</p>
<p>Because it is nonsense takingbacksaturday...because there are many whites, MANY blacks, MANY French and British citizens, MANY other ppl that hate Bush, because of the way he has run this country.</p>
<p>What has he done in the Middle East? Bred American hatred? Tapped in to Iraqi oil? He's not going to get any Nobel Prize...I'll wager my savings on it :)</p>
<p>and I may not be an expert at everything, but I do keep up with politics, and considering I'm persuing it as a career, I've made a point to well-educate myself for it, so I know what to expect.</p>
<p>primitive</p>
<p>your argument is right</p>
<p>we need more people like you to counteract the statements of these partisan hacks, notably takingbacksaturdays and ucbenz</p>