<p>primitive I applaud your efforts for repudiating the senseless reactionary conservative paper arguments</p>
<p>nahrafsa, even though I disgree with you on some issues you are articulate enough and know enough about these issues to convince me that you are an intelligent person. I'm sure that were this not an internet forum, I would enjoy holding extensive policy debates with you.</p>
<p>Ucbenz,takingbacksaturdays etc etc</p>
<p>you guys have the IQ of Bush and the ethics of Nixon and your arguments are as clear and sophisticated as those made by H. Sapiens Adaltu. you guys are the ones recruited for the fake town hall meetings who just nod and applaud with everything bush does, heck you'll even applaud the drunk antics of the bush daughters who later use the secret service to bail themselves and their boyfriends out of jail.</p>
<p>And I understand the posts of some CCers here, you talk liberal but claim you are conservative. Check the dictionary to confirm which ideals you want to associate with.</p>
<p>2.) This is the better known event.Cheney said that Americans should vote for Bush or risk another terrorist attack. I've thought about this, and it doesn't even make sense. Wow, he is good at scaring people to vote for Bush! :)</p>
<p>primitive, you hate conservatives? Wow. That's quite a waste of effort. I mean, just hating one person is stupid, pointless, etc. but generalizing and hating a whole group? That's a whole new level of stupidity and foolishness that I haven't ever seen- and I've seen all of Michael Moore's films. </p>
<p>I find it humorous how even moderates like myself are belittled and attacked just for being more conservative than liberal. You want to align yourself with only the hardcore left and tune out the rest? Fine. My party is currently waltzing through Washington, and guys like McCain and Obama are next in line for the seat of power :) . </p>
<p>Once again, and I want to emphasize: YOU CANNOT "WIN" AND INTERNET DEBATE!!! There is no such thing as winning a debate of opinions, especially when absolutely no one has changed there mind. Debating on the internet is like...well I think you know the rest of the joke. There was no contest, no judges except your own obsessive selves, therefore calling yourselves winners is pointless and shows your incredible ego. </p>
<p>Meh. Debating on the internet is pointless, because no one will ever change there mind, it's the haven of radicals on both sides, and the veil of being anonymous brings out the annoying ego in every little high school wannabe.</p>
<p>Wow. I never expected you to be such a good clown :) . I think you are better than Chappelle as a comedian. keep bringing in the laughter, this debate needs it. you are also a good cheerleader for conservatives. keep up the good work !! :)</p>
<p>you're really funny primitive...you use the same attacks..."clown"..."you're like Chapelle"...you attempted to repudiate our argument, but you failed...furthermore...you're no better than the Christian fundamentalists that generalize that all Muslims are terrorists :)...you're just like them.</p>
<p>and who talks liberal but claims they're conservative? me? ummm notice i stated my moderation in about 100 posts...and...i've constantly preached how i lean more to the right than i do to the left...i am a moderate like 90% of the public....i have my liberal swings, but as many can tell, i have sided with conservatives on a number of issues...</p>
<p>you have proven yourself as an oblivious highschool student whose basis for debate is assumption rather than fact. Go read a few poli sci books, 2 government textbooks, take a few poli sci classes at a credible university, and then argue with me.</p>
<p>the Christian fundamentalists that generalize that all Muslims are terrorists </p>
<p>LOL. Thats news to me!! Does that mean I am discriminant? haha you're crazy!</p>
<p>I hardly seen you say anything conservative as far as I debated with you. Yeah and I am in hs. Its sad that me being a hs student came out more mature that you. Go learn some maturity from your parents.</p>
<p>Since you asked me to take a class, I decided to ask my AP Gov. teacher if fetuses really did have rights. He told me that no such laws exist and politicians are still debating over the matter. :)</p>
<p>hmmmm...nothing conservative?....well let's see....i spoke out against the welfare system, i support U.S. military intervention for those who cannot fend for themselves, i HEAVILY support malpractice caps on suits, i'm very much against abortion except when the mother's life is on the line or when the baby is so mentally defective that there is a high probability that there will be a miscarriage along the line/at birth....i support tax incentives for large corporations so that they may effectively compete in the global market, i don't believe in gay marriage, i'm against big government on several domestic matters, and i support reforming social security (but Bush's plan is flawed and expensive).....yep...i'd consider myself fairly conservative</p>
<p>funny...i took AP gov't and it still baffles me why i learned 80% more about American politics in my VT Gov't class when they're supposed to be essentially the same.</p>
<p>and you're no better than those christian fundamentalists...you make generalizations about conservatives....so you're a partisan bigot rather than a racist bigot.</p>
<p>good. now learn some maturity. wow, that was the first time anybody called me a biggot! Check the dictionary for the meaning. Conservatives say crazy things. No wonder why they have crazy leaders :)</p>
<p>oh i believe i'm very mature...i can actually carry on a debate and acknowledge the other person's view if they form a valid point. </p>
<p>furthermore, i am an excellent communicator, i get along very well with adults (infact no adult i know has a negative image of me, aside from one mother who thinks i'm the devil, because i encourage her son to date...she's one of those extremely conservative Muslim women)...i make a point to practice good manners...i can manage my time rather well between having fun and doing well in school...so much that i was able to pull a 4.0 my first year in college with 30 credits including honors courses and several non-freshman level courses...getting annoyed with ppl isn't immature :)....
geez, i'm just not as mature as primitive...i don't call ppl clowns and compare them to comedians when they present intellegent points...i listen to what everyone says and acknowledge their viewpoints rather than being a baby and crying whenever some1 disagrees with me....and i don't stereotype liberals....damn...i'm so immature...get real</p>
<p>Please dont brag about your accomplishments because I also have made alot of accomplishments for personal satisfaction. So you failed to impress me in any way. :)</p>
<p>That's the funniest thing about today's right-wing extremists; they think their "fairly conservative". </p>
<p>I call it being a right-wing nutcase bent on the devolution of the federal government. Pres. Dwight Eisenhower had something to say about people like you:</p>
<p>Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are (a) few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.</p>
<p>President Eisenhower
Nov. 8, 1954.</p>
<p>So going back to the thread, I'd say put Eisenhower in the top 5: he managed to be conservative without being a nut.</p>