<p>Where I live, the only alumni networks that really count are University of Washington, and Washington State U, and, maybe, Whitman. Ivy and east coast LAC students leave the area and almost never come back. But the state u networks will carry you far.</p>
<p>I don't believe collegeperson meant inferior in an absolute sense. He meant that schools like Cornell, Brown, etc were inferior in RELATION to HYP.</p>
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<p>DMC my love,</p>
<p>I think you are just digging your self deeper with this one because everything is relative. what consitutes being inferior ? Is it some aribitrary ranking puts a place at 1 ,2 and 3? After you get past the name on the gates, you've got to get an education both in and outside of the classroom. I have relatives that went to Harvard and Princeton that can give new meaning to educated fools. On the ohter hand I know plenty of people who make 7 figures and attended schools which would totally be under the radar on CC.</p>
<p>In the end there are many great universites in this country . who is to say that someone who attends harvard is better or is getting a better education than someone who goes to podunk U? In the end everything is relative.</p>
<p>Personally I agree with mini , Alexandre and thethoughtprocess that state U's especially the flagship state U's have a stronger alumni network by the plain and simple facts that </p>
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<li>An overwhelming majority of people tend these schools at number larger than the 20 "elite" schools combined</li>
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<p>2.The people that attend state U's tend to end up living and working in those states. it is most likley that the person making the hiring decison is not going to be a graduate of an elite school. </p>
<p>It is a regional thing. An many people do go with what they know. As mini said HYP does not carry much weight in some parts of the country despite being "known" around the world. If you are looking ot work for a law firm in a particular region of the country your chances are better having attended the local state law schooll vs. yale law. </p>
<p>Being a NYer, and a HR person I could see a resume from Evergreen (even though now I know it is a great school) and one from Baruch College (CUNY- oh, bow your head in shame) and would have picked the Baruch college student because an large number of companies in NYC are familiar with Baruch and it is a pretty decent school for obtaining a degree in business. Myself, beign a graudate of Baruch, Cornell and NYU, I would lean more toward the Baruch candidate if compared to the Cornell and NYU candidate.</p>
<p>SYBBIE, PLEASE UNDERSTAND! I DO NOT CONDONE WHAT HE HAS SAID.</p>
<p>I just understand what the guy meant....that's all. Believe me, I am on your side...as always.</p>
<p>D,</p>
<p>I am just trying to push you to look at things using multiple lenses and posibbly expand your horizions (you may thank be later or you may come u on me when I am am a little old lady and push my wheel chair down the hill). </p>
<p>Remember, you are getting ready to go off to college. Everything you and other's say will not be taken on face value. Nor should to take what others say just on face. You are going to have to back up what you say with facts.</p>
<p>Certainly no harm and I am not mad at ya.</p>
<p>How could you say such things, Sybbie? First off, you will never be in a wheel chair. Second off, even if you were in such a predicament, I would NEVER push it down a hill maliciously. LOL You think me a monster? haha jk I completely understand what you are saying and you can consider my horizons already expanded. Believe me, I had enough perspicacity to know what you meant the first time. Don't worry.</p>
<p>Moving on, I have a question:
If you are planning on going to law school, does networking really have any true significance since you are not attending your undergrad school for law school? Most of us here are transcending the normal BS/BA route, so I think this topic is for the minority of us on CC. However, I'm sure networking can be very influential in getting great internships as Sybbie mentioned earlier.</p>
<p>LOL inferior ivy is a funny term. :)</p>
<p>USC and Notre Dame.</p>
<p>Networking always has true significance because at the end of the day the peopel who make the decisions are people. They have biases, schisms, are shaped by their experiences, frames of references and are givers and recievers or halo/ horn effects. You will definitely remember 2 things that your grandma said about Lord giving you favor with people and never giving people your but to kiss if there is a remote possiblity that you may need something form them in the future.</p>
<p>Your going to be going through the process again for professional school the same way you did for college this time with higher stakes. So yes, you will want to choose that work study job carefully maybe even turning down more money to work with someone who will be influential in providing you a good rec to the school of your choice. </p>
<p>It may be the professor /TA roomie whose mom dad, neighbor can help you get the internship in the law firm which you are looking for as you build your resume. One of the best forms of networking comes from mentoring personal and professional: being a mentee and a mentor. If you know someone who can be your mentor has you begin your journey, it can help clear a few ways for you.</p>
<p>University of Texas for sure</p>
<p>Usc .</p>
<p>Totally agree with the people who mention USC and Notre Dame. </p>
<p>I live in the South and Auburn, UGA, U of Tennesse are big, popular schools here with, understandably, a boat load of alumni everywhere. Especially the Auburn U people-- they like to stick together, in my observation.</p>
<p>Since I've been out in the work world, I've observed a lot of Notre Dame loyalty.</p>
<p>I would say University of Texas at Austin above all else. Outside of Texas, the school isnt held in such a high regard. But within the city/state limits, those grads are treated like gods. LOL I'm exxagerating heavily, but you ge the point. UT grads are taken care of.</p>
<p>Boston University has a huge alumni network</p>
<p>and i dont understand why everyone jumps upon hearing the term "lesser" or "inferior" ivy.</p>
<p>Is it an oxymoron? Of course</p>
<p>Are these schools lesser or inferior in the grand scheme of things? Nope</p>
<p>But do I understand what the individual meant by those terms? Obviously</p>
<p>Theres no need to turn this into a dialectic debate...Attacking people for not supporting their statements with facts is completely contradictory in a venue such as this. Look at the name of the thread....We are all expressing the universities that WE BELIEVE have extensive alumni networks. I think alot of people need to relax and stop donning the role of internet Aristotle.</p>
<p>If memory serves, this is the same person who stated that "Princeton engages in strategic admissions" whatever that means... and also said something to the effect of "Oxford and Cambridge are 'has been' museums"</p>
<p>Terms like "inferior Ivy" are just bait to incite a flame. No need to feed it.</p>
<p>It's like someone saying:</p>
<p>"Cal is the No. 1 Public, and UMich, UVA and UNC are the 'inferior' Top Publics."</p>
<p>It's moronic. The poster is obviously immature with an immature agenda. </p>
<p>People like that start losing credibility - and quickly.</p>
<p>Devil- You are really off the mark in saying UT isn't held in very high regard outside of Texas. It is one of the top state universities in the country and has some very highly ranked programs.</p>
<p>With all due respect, I said that it was not held in as high a regard outside of Texas as it is inside of Texas. I never said that it was not revered. In fact, as a Houstonian, I am very qualified in telling you that it gets massive amounts of respect and has substantial credibility.</p>
<p>Again, I apologize for seeming ambiguous at first.</p>
<p>Within Texas, as far as networking goes, I'd give the edge to A&M over UT. Sure, UT produces great alums, but I found that the A&M alums are much more "protective" of their own.</p>
<p>Best Alumni Networking? how do you even define that?</p>
<p>Most everyone will have bias towards their alma mater... regardless of the caliber of school. Let say your the hiring manager at a firm...wouldn't you favor someone who attended your school?</p>
<p>we can use two determinants that can indicate strong alumi netwok. it would be these two.</p>
<p>1) employment rate for graduates; no point in having a network if you can't be employed.</p>
<p>2) and starting salary; most everyone can be employed, but salary make for a better indication of job quality.</p>
<p>so if you can combined these two scores... the school ranked the highest should have the best alumni network.</p>
<p>not perfect but it' better than throwing name of schools out there. </p>
<p>while we at it ... I have to say Cal State LA have the best alumni network--why? cause I have three friends that go there and their all working. you don't agree...well then prove me wrong.</p>