Best chinese programs?

<p>Ive searched this forum for this topic and really only found one thread. From what I gather the best programs are -</p>

<p>Princeton - not considering
Upenn
Stanford - not considering
UC Berk
SOAS(school of oriental and african studies - London)
Cambridge - impossible to get into program</p>

<p>Ive also heard Middlebury and Wisconsin Madison; however ive already gotten into Wisconsin Madison before and really dont want to live there. As for Middlebury my chances would probably be about 60/40 for acceptance as a transfer but its out of my reach financially. </p>

<p>If someone knows other schools with top of the line Chinese Language programs coupled with good International Relations programs I would appreciate it. Also, im looking for schools that are transfer friendly(im pretty competitive - slight reach for lower ivy range).</p>

<p>Well the obvious overlooks I'd say would be Tufts University and George Washington. Also, University of Alberta has been referred to a number of times as the best Chinese program in North America, go figure, I would need someone to validate that, but I do know there are a good 200,000 Chinese in Edmonton & Calgary. There are as many Chinese there as there are in San Francisco.</p>

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<p>Columbia University
Cornell University
Harvard University
University of Chicago
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor</p>

<p>University of Washington's got a great chinese language program</p>

<p>Just go pre-med and every classmate in Org. Chem will teach you Chinese as the teacher lectures.</p>

<p>Go to China.... >_></p>

<p>Seriously, the best way is probably just go study overseas. Probably less stressful on the way.</p>

<p>Or find a school in a community with a lot of Chinese. Chinese from Beijing, Hong Kong, and Taiwan would be best since they mostly speak Mandarin Chinese. Those from other provinces will have an accent from their dialect and most likely speak their dialect more often.</p>

<p>Hong Kong University is there and the main idiom in lectures is English. Of course, you must take HKCALEs.
Interestingly enough, this is my potential major. I also found Kansas, Rice, and Oberlin; I can't talk too much about the IR stuff however as I am not dualing there but in either Economics or Chemistry.</p>

<p>Ohhh if we're talking about universities in the actual country.. Tai Da University is the best university in northern Taiwan and all instruction takes place in English. So you'll be able to understand your classes yet have the perfect opportunity to hone your Chinese in the environment. Plus Taipei is a giant city, it's unbelievably convenient and absolutely tons of stuff happens everyday. ..It makes New York look almost sub urbane-ish by comparision.. Tai Da is best known for its medicine though, it's like the Harvard Medical School of Taiwan, so that's a bit off your interest.</p>

<p>Actually Furman Univiersity has an excellent Asian Studies department which was recently endowed this past year and will be again next year.</p>

<p>believe it or not, connecticut college has a terrific chinese department- people become near fluent very quickly, and the east asian study abraod programs are amazing.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.conncoll.edu/academics/departments/eastasian/studentcomments.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.conncoll.edu/academics/departments/eastasian/studentcomments.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Georgetown has a good Chinese program and it's easy to transfer there (much easier than regular decision, anyway).</p>

<p>Harvard is apparently very good.</p>

<p>SOAS is pretty much the place to go if you're serious about studying Chinese. The problem with SOAS is it's not well known and your undergraduate experience might be a little bit ****.</p>

<p>Can I just ask - how did you come up with your list? Just off the forum or?</p>

<p>I overlooked a lot of these schools, thanks. I came up with the list just by doing my own research. The IR program with the Chinese program is a big concern for me and thats what is making this difficult.</p>

<p>Don't go to Taiwan or Hong Kong if you can go to the mainland. The Taiwanese use the traditional script (which 99% of Chinese people don't use) and cantonese is used in Hong Kong.</p>

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This was found at <a href="http://www.aca.ntu.edu.tw/English/4w.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.aca.ntu.edu.tw/English/4w.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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the obvious overlooks I'd say would be Tufts University and George Washington

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Why? How large are their Chinese department? How many volumes do they have in their library?</p>

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Chinese from Beijing, Hong Kong, and Taiwan would be best since they mostly speak Mandarin Chinese.

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<p>No, HKers mainly speak Cantonese, not Mandarin. And I've heard that Taiwanese outside of Taipei tend to speak Hokkien more than Mandarin too . . .</p>

<p>I'm a Chinese major. Due to financial restraints, I'm limited to applying to public universities in California as a transfer student. So the programs among those schools that I think are pretty good are [UCLA[/url</a>], [url=<a href="http://www.csulb.edu/depts/as/%5DCSULB%5B/url"&gt;http://www.csulb.edu/depts/as/]CSULB[/url&lt;/a&gt;], [url=<a href="http://www.sfsu.edu/%7Esfsuchin/%5DSFSU%5B/url"&gt;http://www.sfsu.edu/~sfsuchin/]SFSU[/url&lt;/a&gt;], [url=<a href="http://www.sjsu.edu/foreignlanguage/foreign_chin.html%5DSJSU%5B/url"&gt;http://www.sjsu.edu/foreignlanguage/foreign_chin.html]SJSU[/url&lt;/a&gt;], [url=<a href="http://www.hnet.uci.edu/eastasian/%5DUCI%5B/url"&gt;http://www.hnet.uci.edu/eastasian/]UCI[/url&lt;/a&gt;], and [url=<a href="http://chinese.ucdavis.edu/FrontPage%5DUCD%5B/url"&gt;http://chinese.ucdavis.edu/FrontPage]UCD[/url&lt;/a&gt;] (not mentioning [url=<a href="http://ealc.berkeley.edu/%5DUCB%5B/url"&gt;http://ealc.berkeley.edu/]UCB[/url&lt;/a&gt;] since someone else already did). UCR, CSUS, UCSC, and CSULA have Chinese majors, but have too few upper-division classes imo. UCSB looked good in previous years, but for some reason seems to have cut their course offerings in half for 2007. (And I'm annoyed at UCSD because they have a dumb policy that states 2 semesters of language classes at a CCC equal 2 quarters at the UC, which no other UC seems to require. So I'm not applying there, although it's in my hometown...) Personally, I'm hoping to get into UCLA, but CSULB and UCI are my next choices.</p>

<p>I haven't really looked into programs outside of CA, but I've always been envious of the Asian language offerings at [url=<a href="http://www.lll.hawaii.edu/departments.html%5DUH"&gt;http://www.lll.hawaii.edu/departments.html]UH&lt;/a> Manoa](<a href="http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/ealc/ealcmain.html%5DUCLA%5B/url"&gt;http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/ealc/ealcmain.html).&lt;/p>

<p>As for overseas programs, I've read that ICLP[/url</a>] at NTU, [url=<a href="http://ieas.berkeley.edu/iup/%5DIUP%5B/url">http://ieas.berkeley.edu/iup/]IUP[/url</a>] at Tsinghua, [url=<a href="http://www.tli.com.tw/%5DTaipei">http://www.tli.com.tw/]Taipei</a> Language Institute, and [url=<a href="http://www.bnu.edu.cn/eng/%5DBNU%5B/url"&gt;http://www.bnu.edu.cn/eng/]BNU[/url&lt;/a&gt;] are pretty good. I'm thinking of spending next summer at [url=<a href="http://www.uir-cie.com/home_en.htm%5DUIR-CIE%5B/url"&gt;http://www.uir-cie.com/home_en.htm]UIR-CIE[/url&lt;/a&gt;], and at least one semester at ICLP after I transfer. But this topic is discussed in more detail at [url=<a href="http://www.chinese-forums.com/forums.php%5DChinese-forums.com%5B/url"&gt;http://www.chinese-forums.com/forums.php]Chinese-forums.com[/url&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/p>