<p>Wanted to know what are the best classics schools nation wide, and in the uc system. Also does UCSD even have one, usa news desn't seem to think so.</p>
<p>Schools with the most distinguished faculty for Classics, ranked in 1993:</p>
<ol>
<li> Harvard University 8.32 4.79</li>
<li> University of California - Berkeley 8.21 4.77</li>
<li> University of Michigan 6.95 4.54</li>
<li> Princeton University 4.87 4.16</li>
<li> Yale University 4.65 4.12</li>
<li> Brown University 4.54 4.10</li>
<li> University of Chicago 3.99 4.00</li>
<li> University of Texas at Austin 3.55 3.92</li>
<li> University of California - Los Angeles 3.38 3.89</li>
<li> Columbia University 3.22 3.86</li>
<li> University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill 2.95 3.81</li>
<li> Cornell University 2.51 3.73</li>
<li> University of Pennsylvania 1.90 3.62</li>
<li> Bryn Mawr College 1.13 3.48</li>
<li> Duke University 0.53 3.37</li>
<li> Stanford University 0.26 3.32</li>
<li> University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign -1.38 3.02</li>
<li> University of Virginia -1.60 2.98</li>
<li> University of Wisconsin - Madison -1.93 2.92</li>
<li> University of Washington -2.09 2.89</li>
</ol>
<p>UC Berkeley and UCLA have the best programs among the UCs. I've also heard UC Santa Cruz and UC Santa Barbara have good programs.</p>
<p>Yeah, UCSB also seems to be good.</p>
<ol>
<li> Ohio State University -3.69 2.60</li>
<li> University of California - Santa Barbara -3.74 2.59</li>
<li> Johns Hopkins University -4.13 2.52</li>
<li> University of Minnesota -4.62 2.43</li>
<li> New York University -5.17 2.33</li>
<li> Boston University -5.28 2.31</li>
<li> University of Cincinnati -6.43 2.10</li>
<li> Fordham University -7.91 1.83</li>
<li> The Catholic University of America -12.85 0.93</li>
</ol>
<p>St Johns is all classics, and has two campuses, one in NM and one in MD.</p>
<p>^true. if you know classics are your thing, def. consider st. johns</p>
<p>Well, it isn't exactly all classics, but it definitely integrates them thoroughly in the Great Books curriculum. It's a great place, and really intense. It's not for everyone but for those who it is for, they love it and wouldn't want to be elsewhere.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stjohnscollege.edu/asp/home.aspx%5B/url%5D">http://www.stjohnscollege.edu/asp/home.aspx</a></p>
<p>Here's some of the reading list</p>
<p>FRESHMAN YEAR</p>
<pre><code>*
HOMER: Iliad, Odyssey
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AESCHYLUS: Agamemnon, Libation Bearers, Eumenides, Prometheus Bound
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SOPHOCLES: Oedipus Rex, Oedipus at Colonus, Antigone, Philoctetes
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THUCYDIDES: Peloponnesian War
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EURIPIDES: Hippolytus, Bacchae
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HERODOTUS: Histories
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ARISTOPHANES: Clouds
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PLATO: Meno, Gorgias, Republic, Apology, Crito, Phaedo, Symposium, Parmenides, Theatetus, Sophist, Timaeus, Phaedrus
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ARISTOTLE: Poetics, Physics, Metaphysics, Nicomachean Ethics, On Generation and Corruption, Politics, Parts of Animals, Generation of Animals
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EUCLID: Elements
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LUCRETIUS: On the Nature of Things
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PLUTARCH: Lycurgus, Solon
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NICOMACHUS: Arithmetic
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LAVOISIER: Elements of Chemistry
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HARVEY: Motion of the Heart and Blood
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Essays by: Archimedes, Fahrenheit, Avogadro, Dalton, Cannizzaro, Virchow, Mariotte, Driesch, Gay-Lussac, Spemann, Stears, J.J. Thompson, Mendeleyev, Berthollet, J.L. Proust
</code></pre>
<p>You also take four years of language. (I think you choose between Greek or Latin)</p>
<p><a href="http://historyweb.ucsd.edu///ClassicalStud.html%5B/url%5D">http://historyweb.ucsd.edu///ClassicalStud.html</a> is the link to UCSD classics.</p>
<p>Yeah, I would have said St. John's too.</p>
<p>I wouldn't. True, their program in literature is good (although I don't see any Roman authors unless you count Plutarch), but they don't have other vital parts of classical studies. If you want somehwere like St. John's but actually has a complete classics program, consider U Chicago. </p>
<p>You also might want to look into the Claremont colleges. I'm not sure if he's still at Pomona, but Richard McKirahan is awesome, and the overall department is very good.</p>
<p>St John's language program is:
Freshmen- Ancient Greek
Sophomore-Ancient Greek, Logic, English Poetry
junior- French
Senior- French Poetry, Poetry and Prose</p>
<p>Why does St John's not do Latin? I'm all for Greek, but Latin is a pretty important thing to know too.</p>
<p>I'm going to plug Brown's classics dept, because it's just awesome. The undergrad concentration adviser is amazing, the profs are fantastic, there's a good range of courses regularly offered, and if somehow you exhaust your undergrad options (due to previous course work or just taking advangtage of the curriculum and not taking anything but classics), you can take graduate level courses, and Brown's grad program in classics is one of the best. (I think it's in the top 5, although that could be an old ranking.)</p>
<p>How's Kenyon's program?</p>
<p>It's good that y'all are taking a look at some of the LAC's. Keep in mind that rankings for classics departments invariably include only those schools that run PhD programs, which necessarily exclude the LAC's. I would argue that the elite LAC's like AWS are better at Classics than many of the research universities listed above. Bryn Mawr is a special case because it is one of the few LAC's that actually run PhD programs.</p>
<p>For classics, I don't think being at a research university is a disavantage because their classes will be small anyways.</p>
<p>But you pointed out correctly that the list I posted is actually a ranking of PhD programs, taken from phds.org</p>
<p>Holy Cross has a strong Classics program and offers merit aid in that field.</p>
<p>I definitely recommend Michigan highly. The classes seldom have more than 20 students and the course selection is amazing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.umich.edu/%7Eclassics/about.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.umich.edu/~classics/about.html</a></p>
<p>When it comes to the classics, you can't get any better than Columbia University. They wrote the book as far as the American undergraduate study of Plato, Homer et al.</p>
<p>My S loves his 1st year classics course at UChicago. Smallish class about 15, all discussion, analysis, and papers. Loves that the prof who teaches the course reads and translates from the original Greek. Reading is heavy and work very demanding, but he said he found where fun was hiding.</p>
<p>Y'all might want to look at his stats before you suggest schools- otherwise it's pointless to suggest schools! I'm thinking Columbia and Chicago are reaches. </p>
<p>Reed has a good program</p>