<p>merhoto:</p>
<p>Yes, NYU math department rivals those at Princeton, Chicago, MIT, etc. Indeed, if you want study math as an undergraduate, it makes perfect sense to apply to the NYU CAS, where the odds of acceptance are ~ 1 in 4, instead of (or in addition to), say, Princeton, where the odds are 1 in 10.</p>
<p>The same is true if you main interest is philosophy, art history, or a number of other fields within the CAS.</p>
<p>good article on Applied Math in Wikipedia</p>
<p>Applied</a> mathematics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>bump
also i have a question for atnyu: what is graduate school placement like for the applied math undergrads from NYU?</p>
<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>The Gourman Report is Dr. Jack Gourman's ranking of undergraduate programs and professional programs in American and International Universities. It has been criticized for not disclosing criteria or ranking methods,[1][2] as well as for reporting statistically impossible data, such as no ties among schools, narrow gaps in scores with no variation in gap widths, and ranks of nonexistent departments.[3] The Princeton Review, a for-profit publisher of achievement tests and college guidebooks, publishes the Gourman Report.[1]</p>
<p>Given that he does not explain his criteria or data, I don't see why we should value his rankings any more than the average person on collegeconfidential. At least on this site you can ask, "Hey, why do you think that?"</p>
<p>NYU's graduate philosophy and math progams are very highly regarded, but that doesn't mean their undergraduate programs are as good. Pitt is ranked as one of the best places for graduate study in philosophy, but I don't think very many would say the same about their undergraduate program. </p>
<p>Here's what Brian Leiter, the guy who ranked NYU #1, had to say about undergraduate study in philosophy: </p>
<p>"High school students interested in philosophy would do best to identify schools that have strong reputations for undergraduate education first. Only then, should they look in to the quality of the philosophy department. Some ranked PhD programs have good reputations for undergraduate education, like Princeton, Yale, Brown and Rice, among many others. The larger universities (like Harvard or Michigan or Texas) tend to offer a more mixed undergraduate experience, largely due to their size. Since much of the teaching at those institutions will be done by graduate students, it pays to go to a school with a strong PhD program, since that will affect the intellectual caliber of teachers you will encounter."</p>
<p>I suspect math would be the same way.</p>
<p>I don't mean to suggest that NYU wouldn't be a fine place to study math and philosophy, only that it might not be
THE best place.</p>
<p>Can we compile a list of school that have good applied math programs (dont jus t restate the rankings), but are not too hard to get into (ie: princeton/MIT)
ill start with:
nyu
Uchicago (that's not too hard to get into right?)
Brown (?)</p>
<p>I also have a question regarding SUNY Stony Brook, because i heard from someone that they have a pretty good applied math program. or was that person lying?</p>
<p>Don't put Brown or Chicago on that list. Though a bit easier than MIT/Princeton admissions-wise, they're continuously getting harder to get into.</p>
<p>Yeah, and next year, Chicago will be just as hard to get into as MIT/Princeton, anyway. And just a quick note, the Gourman report is completely unreliable. It ranks Chicago 2nd for applied math but 5th for pure math? Everyone knows that Chicago's pure mathematics program is considerably more prestigious than its applied program. However, I won't make any comments on the actual quality of the two programs, as I have hardly any experience with applied mathematics (unless you count differential geometry, which I think leans more to pure than anything).</p>
<p>Its difficut to rank undergraduate programs. Which is why no undergraduate ranking list exist at the undergraduate level. (you can't really go that indepth in undergraduate anyways, your taught the basics, then you dip into the medium and intermediate and tad taste of the high end. Leave the hardest parts to the graduate students.</p>
<p>Typically the way I look at it, if the school has a good applied maths graduate program, it must have a good undergraduate program as well. Though its not that simple, its usually the way it works wit ah few minor exceptions here and there.</p>
<p>any other suggestions for colleges? LACs with good applied math (or even regular math) programs? public schools?</p>
<p>If applied math interests you, you may also want to look into operations research- I've heard the two are very similar subjects.</p>
<p>thanks guys....what about LAC with strong math departments?</p>
<p>What about Notre Dame for Undergraduate Math? is it any good?</p>
<p>Also (I forgot to ask) is NYU Politechnic (notice im not refering to NYU itself) any good at math?</p>
<p>This original (year old) thread was about applied math. You seem to be asking about math in general at two specific colleges. It might be worth starting your own thread for that question.</p>