<p>Cornell vs. UPenn vs. Columbia </p>
<p>What do you guys think? </p>
<p>I'd say Cornell has a solid engineering college, but Columbia is better at applications and UPenn is better in the business aspects. </p>
<p>Other perspectives?</p>
<p>hmm..are u thinking about applying to the dual degree program at Penn for Wharton and SEAS? You know that only five people or so get into that a year? But yeah, if u want to do the combined program, Penn is probably better. However, if you want to be an engineer (particularly electrical and comp sci), Cornell is probably better.</p>
<p>Columbia is better at applications? What are you saying? I am not sure what you mean... do you mean college applications? Selectivity? or concept application. In terms of project teams, Cornell gives more hands on activities (like project teams) so I'd actually say Cornell is better at "applying" the things you learned.</p>
<p>This doesn't matter. They are all very strong. Comparing Ivies is a very bad game. You should apply to the ones that you like that are strong in your field of interest. </p>
<p>Appleapple, I think the original poster means that Columbia is better for real-world applications, which is probably a poor point of comparison because to graduate from Penn SEAS, you need to complete a design project.</p>
<p>You are asking the wrong question. Lots of top engineering schools are not Ivy. Many Ivies are decidedly not good investments for engineering education, they don't have the critical mass needed for good research. There's lots of things I like about Cornell (as a parent), but their engineering education seems a bit old fashioned "boot camp"-ish with their exams that aren't based on homework and leave students feeling inadequate. MIT at least has the first semester pass/fail while students make the transition. </p>
<p>Engineering is all about getting into the right graduate school and affording graduate school, as well as an environment you like. In my PhD engineering program at Stanford, there were many state school people, non-Ivies and a smattering of "Ivy". </p>
<p>Engineering is about the education, not the Ivy. Maybe if you are really aiming for Wall Street, it is the Ivy.</p>
<p>I'd guess that Columbia and Penn are probably better for the business side of engineering (Columbia's proximity to the city, Penn's reputation in business), but Cornell is definitely superior if you're looking for a technical education. From what I gather, the general opinion is that Cornell and Princeton are the "best" engineering Ivies. But I mean, I'd think a degree from any of the above schools would be fairly equally marketable.</p>
<p>Cornell has the best ranked engineering school out of all the ivies. But like others said when thinking about engineering it is not best to only think Ivy</p>
<p>i agree with sandpit! as soon as i saw your thread, i thought, WHY IVY? expand your search. this seems like the old expression, "cutting your nose off to spite your face!"</p>
<p>I don't think this is such a bad thread at all. And to answer your question, asianprincess, the best engineering IVY is Cornell, followed by (i don't know which of those two schools follows immediately after). </p>
<p>Cornell was ranked as the "7th" best for undergraduate university. True, there are a few schools (all no-ivies) that are ranked higher than Cornell, but you asked for a ranking of the IVIES! I don't see anything wrong with that at all.</p>
<p>Columbia has a good financial engineering program. Good for graduates who want to work in Wall Street.</p>