<p>I'm in search of great math schools that are smaller and colleges, without graduate programs. Similar to Harvey Mudd. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Check out Lafayette College, one of the few LACs to offer a strong engnineering curriculum: [url=<a href=“http://www.lafayette.edu/admissions/majors/mathematics.html]Mathematics[/url”>http://www.lafayette.edu/admissions/majors/mathematics.html]Mathematics[/url</a>]</p>
<p>Pick out the LACs from this list of schools that provide good undergrad prep in math and math-related fields (posted earlier by interesteddad):</p>
<p>Percentage of grads getting PhDs in Engineering, Science, and Math</p>
<p>PhDs and Doctoral Degrees: ten years (1994 to 2003) from NSF database
Number of Undergraduates: ten years (1989 to 1998) from IPEDS database
Formula: Total PhDs divided by Total Grads </p>
<p>Note: Does not include colleges with less than 1000 graduates over the ten year period </p>
<p>1 34% California Institute of Technology<br>
2 24% Harvey Mudd College
3 16% Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br>
4 10% Reed College<br>
5 9% Rice University
6 8% Swarthmore College<br>
7 8% Princeton University<br>
8 7% Carleton College<br>
9 7% New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology<br>
10 7% University of Chicago<br>
11 7% Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute<br>
12 7% Case Western Reserve University
13 6% Harvard University<br>
14 6% Carnegie Mellon University<br>
15 6% Johns Hopkins University<br>
16 6% Haverford College<br>
17 6% Grinnell College<br>
18 6% Cornell University, All Campuses<br>
19 5% Kalamazoo College<br>
20 5% Stanford University
21 5% Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
22 5% Yale University
23 5% Cooper Union<br>
24 5% Oberlin College
25 5% Lawrence University
26 5% Bryn Mawr College<br>
27 5% Williams College<br>
28 5% Pomona College<br>
29 4% Colorado School of Mines<br>
30 4% Bowdoin College
31 4% Earlham College
32 4% Brown University<br>
33 4% University of Rochester
34 4% University of California-Berkeley<br>
35 4% Wabash College<br>
36 4% Duke University
37 4% Worcester Polytechnic Institute
38 4% Amherst College
39 4% Stevens Institute of Technology
40 4% St Olaf College
41 4% Hendrix College
42 4% Beloit College<br>
43 4% University of Missouri, Rolla<br>
44 4% University of California-San Francisco<br>
45 4% Occidental College<br>
46 4% Alfred University, Main Campus<br>
47 4% Allegheny College<br>
48 4% Whitman College
49 4% College of Wooster<br>
50 4% SUNY College of Environmental Sci & Forestry<br>
51 4% Mount Holyoke College<br>
52 4% Bates College<br>
53 4% College of William and Mary
54 4% Knox College<br>
55 3% Franklin and Marshall College<br>
56 3% Georgia Institute of Technology, Main Campus<br>
57 3% Washington University<br>
58 3% Long Island University Southampton Campus<br>
59 3% Macalester College<br>
60 3% University of California-San Diego<br>
61 3% Dartmouth College<br>
62 3% Wellesley College<br>
63 3% Trinity University<br>
64 3% Juniata College
65 3% Ripon College<br>
66 3% University of California-Davis<br>
67 3% Florida Institute of Technology
68 3% Polytechnic University<br>
69 3% Michigan Technological University<br>
70 3% Columbia University in the City of New York
71 3% Lehigh University<br>
72 3% University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign<br>
73 3% Centre College<br>
74 3% Hampshire College<br>
75 3% University of Pennsylvania<br>
76 3% Wesleyan University
77 3% University of Michigan at Ann Arbor
78 3% Colorado College<br>
79 3% Bucknell University
80 3% Davidson College<br>
81 3% Northwestern Univ<br>
82 3% Texas Lutheran University<br>
83 3% St John’s College (both campus)
84 3% Furman University<br>
85 3% Hope College<br>
86 2% Clarkson University
87 2% University of Virginia, Main Campus
88 2% Illinois Institute of Technology<br>
89 2% Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State Univ<br>
90 2% Union College (Schenectady, NY)
91 2% University of California-Santa Cruz
92 2% Lafayette College<br>
93 2% Brandeis University
94 2% University of Dallas<br>
95 2% Rhodes College<br>
96 2% University of Notre Dame<br>
97 2% Middlebury College<br>
98 2% University of Wisconsin-Madison
99 2% Colgate University<br>
100 2% Hiram College</p>
<p>vossron, I’m confused. Those percentages in the middle look like they might be they percentages of undergraduates who major in mathematics, NOT the percentage of all graduates who go on to earn math PhDs (unless a much higher percentage of math majors get PhDs than I’d have thought.)</p>
<p>So it looks like column two is the percentage of all graduates in a recent class (or classes) who graduate with a math degree … and column one is the per capita PhD productivity ranking (though it does not exactly agree with the ranking currently posted on the Reed site, which I believe has been updated recently). Right?</p>
<p>[COLLEGE</a> PHD PRODUCTIVITY](<a href=“http://www.reed.edu/ir/phd.html]COLLEGE”>Doctoral Degree Productivity - Institutional Research - Reed College)</p>
<p>I think it says that 34% of all 1989 to 1998 Caltech BS graduates earned a PhD in Engineering, Science, or Math between 1994 to 2003.</p>
<p>The Reed page splits Science into the various fields, is for a later time period, and includes only fields where Reed is in the top ten.</p>
<p>This is from an old post about LACs for math from Rugg’s:
Bates
Bowdoin
Bucknell
Carleton
Colgate
Dartmouth
Davidson
Dickinson
Harvey Mudd
Holy Cross
Kenyon
Mount Holyoke
Occidental
Pomona
Rice
St Mary’s (MD)
St Olaf
Trinity (CT)
Union
Wabash
Wellesley
Wheaton
Whitman
Willamette</p>
<p>I read somewhere that Williams has the highest % of students that major in pure math in the country… I don’t know if that’s exactly true but I do know pure math at Williams is a pretty big deal.</p>
<p>^yes, and it’s interesting that Ruggs does not even list Williams, Grinnell,Cal Insti., MIT, Swat, Princeton, Chicago, RPI, Case. etc… These schools are top notch in the math department.</p>
<p>Rose Hulman should be specifically mentioned, if you’re talking about math LACs like Harvey Mudd.</p>
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<p>My copy of Rugg’s (26th edition, p. 83) does list Grinnell, CalTech, MIT, Princeton, Chicago, RPI (“Rensselaer”), and Case Western. Except for Grinnell, none of those are LACs (so we wouldn’t expect them to be in the list posted by Erin’s Dad). For some reason, Rugg’s does not list Williams or Swarthmore.</p>
<p>Top ten baccalaureate colleges with the most math graduates in the past four years:
St. Olaf College Northfield MN 166
College of the Holy Cross Worcester MA 149
United States Naval Academy Annapolis MD 134
St Lawrence University Canton NY 104
Bryn Mawr College Bryn Mawr PA 99
Morehouse College Atlanta GA 99
Williams College Williamstown MA 92
Hamilton College Clinton NY 89
Harvey Mudd College Claremont CA 87
Grinnell College Grinnell IA 84
Any of the above would be respectable. Be aware that many math majors at universities elect to pursue graduate-level courses, as well as specific areas of study not available every year at most smaller schools. The advantages of the LAC model may more than make up for the more limited course availability in your case, but this is something to figure out for yourself.</p>
<p>^ Depends on how hardcore a math student you are. If you foresee wanting to get into a fair amount of exotic stuff at the upper levels, then consider looking for small to mid-sized universities with LAC-like qualities such as the University of Chicago or Brown (which both have excellent Math departments.)</p>
<p>Is there a connection between number of grads and department quality? Maybe there is!</p>
<p>^ I don’t think small departments are necessarily bad, but a school with many people in a department will at least offer a diverse peer group and most likely a wider range of classes.</p>