<p>it depends. heres what i think. the best and worst looking females are white. so white women have more variegated looks. i find asian and latino women more slighty above average- good looking i dont find black women that attractive although there are some notable black women i would love to sleep with like</p>
<p>beyonce knowles</p>
<p>The notable black women that most guys would like to sleep with all have significant caucasian admixture.</p>
<p>Are you kidding me?</p>
<p>Koreans are the best looking ethnicity/race.</p>
<p>Although, Korean women are known to get a lot of plastic surgery..</p>
<p>Look how cuuuute they are, lol</p>
<p>(although the video is biased >_>)</p>
<p>oh well, Koreans is still my choice anyway</p>
<p>Folk wisdom and evolutionary biology would suggest white women. Sexual selection was the most likely driving force behind the varied phenotypic traits in Europe (re: white girls especially are the products of heavier sexual selection compared to Asians or blacks). </p>
<p>Asians as a whole, however, are more feminine, both guys and girls. So Asian girls have got that going for them in narrowing or perhaps eliminating the gap between them and white girls.</p>
<p>Latinas, hands down. </p>
<p>And to specify race, those mixed with European (Spanish/Portuguese), Indigenous (Natives of Latin America), and Black (the slaves) to produce the curvy, brown skinned, curly haired Latinas that many white men (and by white, I mean your typical white American) admire today.</p>
<p>I agree. (10char)</p>
<p>African American men</p>
<p>(yeah, I know, I brought this thread back from nowhere...)</p>
<p>Ethopian men and women are absolutely divine.</p>
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The notable black women that most guys would like to sleep with all have significant caucasian admixture.
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<p>What about models, like Iman, who have arose out of Africa?</p>
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<p>Uhm – no. </p>
<p>Koreans are no better looking than other Asians (tho, they are generally taller, well in the South) and Asians aren’t better looking than any other race.</p>
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Folk wisdom and evolutionary biology would suggest white women. Sexual selection was the most likely driving force behind the varied phenotypic traits in Europe (re: white girls especially are the products of heavier sexual selection compared to Asians or blacks).
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<p>I guess Asians don’t have varied phenotypes – from variance in skin tone to variance in height of nose bridge to variances in eye shape and fold (some Asians have a double fold, some Asians have a single fold, some Asians have a hidden double fold, etc.)</p>
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Asians as a whole, however, are more feminine, both guys and girls. So Asian girls have got that going for them in narrowing or perhaps eliminating the gap between them and white girls.
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<p>Oh, please.</p>
<p>They are more feminine overall (smaller stature, flatter faces <- yes that's feminine, less prominent chins and nasal bridges, less prominent brows, larger upper lip, less deep set eyes). Although they do have a couple more masculine features (darker, more prominent jawline, larger eyebrows). Just not near enough to offset the more feminine one's.</p>
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Folk wisdom and evolutionary biology would suggest white women. Sexual selection was the most likely driving force behind the varied phenotypic traits in Europe (re: white girls especially are the products of heavier sexual selection compared to Asians or blacks).
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<p>I guess Asians don’t have varied phenotypes – from variance in skin tone to variance in height of nose bridge to variances in eye shape and fold (some Asians have a double fold, some Asians have a single fold, some Asians have a hidden double fold, etc.)
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<p>Would you like some more straw for those men? </p>
<p>Anyway, eye fold, skin tone, and nose bridge variations are present in Europeans. What are some traits that are more variable in Europeans than Asians that are readily noticeable? Hm. Maybe hair and eye color? </p>
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<p>Oh, please.
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<p>It's quite transparent that you're giving a sarcastic reply without evidence to try and discredit information that makes you uncomfortable for whatever reason. </p>
<p>On average, testosterone and estrogen levels are lowest and highest in Asians, respectively. </p>
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The notable black women that most guys would like to sleep with all have significant caucasian admixture.
What about models, like Iman, who have arose out of Africa?
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<p>Fashion models are not automatically hot. Iman belongs in the not hot group. I didn't even know who she was, but GoogleImages did the trick.</p>
<p>I KNEW this thread would be revived... I knew it. </p>
<p>I guess it's one of those permanent threads...</p>
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They are more feminine overall (smaller stature, flatter faces <- yes that's feminine, less prominent chins and nasal bridges, less prominent brows, larger upper lip, less deep set eyes). Although they do have a couple more masculine features (darker, more prominent jawline, larger eyebrows). Just not near enough to offset the more feminine one's.
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<p>Smaller stature has to do w/ diet and standard of living.</p>
<p>I travelled to Africa - and at 6'1", I was a good 4-5" taller than the majority of African males (are they more feminine b/c they just happen to be shorter?).</p>
<p>Otoh, in Korea and Northern China - there are plenty of 6 footers.</p>
<p>Hmm - less prominent chins and nasal bridges? Well, blacks generally have those attributes as well.</p>
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Anyway, eye fold, skin tone, and nose bridge variations are present in Europeans. What are some traits that are more variable in Europeans than Asians that are readily noticeable? Hm. Maybe hair and eye color?
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<p>Uhmm - no. The difference in color has to do w/ mutations which Africans or Mongoloids haven't undergone, not sexual selection - and only in select parts of Europe (which is why one sees red heads in Northern Europe and not Southern Europe).</p>
<p>As for coloring - Asians have a much more variance in skin coloring than Europeans.</p>
<p>Yeah, blacks have those feminine traits. But they also have very pronounced maxillas and brow ridges and very sloped foreheads to offset them on the feminine/masculine scale. Some feminine traits that I forgot to mention about asians are less hair and higher eyebrows. Also I'm not just talking about height when talking about stature. But also about natural amount of muscle mass, width of shoulder girdle, etc.</p>
<p>Having a few feminine traits doesn't automatically make blacks feminine since they have so many masculine one's. What I'm saying is that asians have more feminine traits than any other race and less masculine one's, making them the -most feminine-.</p>
<p>The asians born here are still shorter than the average white. So although diet might be a factor, genetics certainly are also.</p>
<p>I've seen asians ranging from pale white to very dark.</p>
<p>I've seen europeans ranging from pink to pale white to very dark. Europeans seem to have more varied skin colour from what I've seen.</p>
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It's quite transparent that you're giving a sarcastic reply without evidence to try and discredit information that makes you uncomfortable for whatever reason. </p>
<p>On average, testosterone and estrogen levels are lowest and highest in Asians, respectively.
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<p>I see you are a disciple of Steve Sailor.</p>
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The present study examined 5 alpha-reductase activity, androgenic ketosteroid precursors, and the influence of genetic and environmental/dietary factors in groups of Chinese and Caucasian men. We found no significant differences in the ratios of 5 beta-:5 alpha-reduced urinary steroids (a marker of 5 alpha-reductase activity) between Chinese subjects living in Beijing, China, and Caucasians living in Pennsylvania. To enhance the sensitivity of detection, we used an isotopic kinetic method to directly measure 5 alpha-reductase activity and found no difference in testosterone to dihydrotestosterone conversion ratios between groups. </p>
<p>Then, addressing the alternative hypothesis, we found that the Caucasian subjects excreted significantly higher levels of individual and total androgenic ketosteroids than did their Chinese counterparts. To distinguish genetic from environmental/dietary factors as a cause of these differences, we compared Chinese men living in Pennsylvania and a similar group living in Beijing, China. </p>
<p>We detected a reduction in testosterone production rates and total plasma testosterone and sex hormone-binding levels, but not in testosterone MCRs in Beijing Chinese as a opposed to those living in Pennsylvania. Comparing Pennsylvania Chinese with their Caucasian counterparts, we detected no significant differences in total testosterone, free and weakly bound testosterone, sex hormone-binding globulin levels, and testosterone production rates. Taken together, these studies suggest that environmental/dietary, but not genetic, factors influence androgen production and explain the differences between Caucasian and Chinese men.
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I've seen europeans ranging from pink to pale white to very dark. Europeans seem to have more varied skin colour from what I've seen.
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<p>I'm talking about NATURAL skin tone - not getting burnt to a crisp under some tanning bad.</p>
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The asians born here are still shorter than the average white. So although diet might be a factor, genetics certainly are also.
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<p>It takes time for diet to have it's impact (tho, a person may see a difference in a couple of inches).</p>
<p>For instance, the Dutch used to be among the shortest in Europe - now they are among the tallest.</p>
<p>Young males in South Korea average 5'9" in height - which is 4-5" taller than 3-4 decades ago.</p>
<p>And keep in mind - the vast majority of Asians in the US are from S Asia as opposed to N Asia.</p>
<p>There is a similar divide in height btwn N Europe and S Europe - tho, likely that has as much to do w/ standard of living and possibly types of cuisine than any genetic limitation.</p>
<p>As for "flatter-faces" - I'd hardly state that is a feminine feature (aside from the fact that certain Asian groups are known for having prominent cheekbones).</p>
<p>The idealized feminine facial feature is certainly not flat - having nice cheekbones is pretty much a must.</p>
<p>As for being hairy - I guess that must make the Arabs and Desis the most "masculine" - not to mention the Ainu and maybe the Mongols.</p>
<p>And there isn't much of a difference in natural muscle mass (tho some blacks may have more fast-twitch muscle fibers).</p>
<p>That's just one study. I've read some that stated otherwise. Overall my argument had little to do with height, anyway.</p>
<p>And I'm talking about natural skin tone also... you'd be surprised how dark some of my romanian relatives are naturally.</p>
<p>Flatter faces are a more feminine feature. The reason for this is because in women the nasal bridge, maxilla, chin, brow all develop less. They also have less sloped foreheads. I never said that a flat face would be ideal on a woman, but a flatter face is more feminine. The ideal female face is certainly flatter than on the ideal man.</p>
<p>The only thing in females that develop forward more than in males are the cheekbones. Male cheekbones tend to grow down and in whereas female cheekbones tend to grow forward. </p>
<p>And being the hairiest doesn't make you the most masculine. It's just one trait. Although I would probably consider arabs the most masculine, everything considered.</p>
<p>And there is a difference in muscle mass. I'm a bodybuilder and I've read quite a few studies on genetic differences in muscle.</p>
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That's just one study. I've read some that stated otherwise.
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<p>There are a no. of others that state the same.</p>
<p>You've probably only read studies that doesn't take into account dietary/environmental factors.</p>
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<p>That's probably b/c they have some Hun or Turkic blood.</p>
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And there is a difference in muscle mass. I'm a bodybuilder and I've read quite a few studies on genetic differences in muscle.
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<p>No - there is a slight difference in where fat is stored.</p>
<p>As for building muscle mass - there isn't much difference (btw, I also train).</p>
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Flatter faces are a more feminine feature. The reason for this is because in women the nasal bridge, maxilla, chin, brow all develop less. They also have less sloped foreheads. I never said that a flat face would be ideal on a woman, but a flatter face is more feminine. The ideal female face is certainly flatter than on the ideal man
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<p>You have a diff. definition of what constitutes a flat-face.</p>
<p>For instance, a female w/ a "flat-nose" would in most places, be considered less feminine.</p>