<p>Haas is among the best, but I have Ross in-state, so I can't fall too far. But yes, I am looking beyond true B-schools, as they certainly are far from cornering the market on business.</p>
<p>I don't mind some hippy types at a school, but the overwhelming dirty(literally), crunchy(as in that type of person), drugged out vibe I got wasn't for me. And I am looking at a mix of somewhat urban to rural schools, I love trees, views, and all of that(so I loved Berkeley's campus around Haas and the athletic facilities too), but access to a city is far from a bad thing to me.</p>
<p>But I'm not everybody, there are more than a few people who idolize UCB, and they are a great school.</p>
<p>^^ I think you had the wrong perception of Berkeley -- perhaps it was a self-fulfilling prophecy, because Berkeley isn't as "hippie" as it once was. It is liberal, but not "hippie." Many students have asked, "What happened to the hippies?" I believe there was even an article in the Daily Cal on it.</p>
<p>Any of the top 5 business schools will do you lots of good, undisclosed.
So yes, Berkeley will do lots for you. Same with ross, stern, and sloan.</p>
<p>I definitely do reccomend if u get a business degree, double major in business and liberal arts. Business degrees teach you how to do business. Liberal arts help you think critically and effectively. Any type of social science goes well with a business degree, as well as foreign languages if you plan on doing business internationally.</p>
<p>Ivy econ degrees are great for getting students consulting and finance jobs, but if you want to do marketing I actually recommend going to an undergrad business school. More operational industry jobs like marketing prefer to hire business students.</p>
<p>"i dont understand why this discussion is continuing without knowing the op's stats"</p>
<p>It's not a chances thread. It's just to discuss the best/most renowned undergraduate business program. I'm sure that many people can benefit from a thread like this. Besides I'm from Quebec, Canada. Our system is extremely different. (GPA on 4.3. scale. No SATs. High school is 5 years, and then we have prep school cegep which is 2 yrs, and then finally University which is 3. Which means that a lot of my college transfer prerequesites where done in prep school which opens up a brand new bottle of tangents for me- just thought I'd spare you)</p>
<p>"truazn st*u"</p>
<p>Now now people, c'mon. Lets try not to have this turn into one of those threads please.</p>
<p>For you to decide. It depends on what you want to do when you graduate. Stern will give you a very well-rounded education that includes not only plenty of liberal arts classes but also business courses as well. Columbia is Economics. Economics is not business.</p>
<p>If you don't think an Economics degree from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Stanford, or MIT are either greater or at least commensurate to BerekelyHaas/MichiganRoss/NYUStern you've got something else coming. </p>
<p>The reason why NO IVIES/STANFORD (except Penn & Cornell) has an B.B.A <em>undergrad business degree</em> is because their ECONOMICS DEGREE is just as highly respected as any undergrad business degree. And it's no secret that law school/medical schools prefer non-preprofessional majors (i.e. they have a disinclination towards business majors). The Undergraduate business degree is an idea cooked up by Tier 2 schools like NYU to distinguish themselves from an otherwise mediocre College of Arts and Science. </p>
<p>Empirical Evidence:
Recruitment at a Bulge Bracket (top investment banks) firm this year SUmmer Analysts</p>
<p>Notice that Michigan, Berkeley, and NYU all place less than Harvard, Princeton, Dartmouth, Penn, Duke, Stanford, and Columbia despite all 3 schools being much much bigger than the aforementioned ivies + duke + stanford.</p>
<p>My friends dad is a MD (managing director) at one of the largest BB firms. He openly told me that they actually have 2 teams recruiting. One team looks specifically at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Wharton, Dartmouth, Columbia, Duke, Stanford applicants while the rest are entirely filtered to the other team. And guess which one of the teams 90% of the hires come from?</p>
<p>Average bank spends $250,000 recruiting for every person they hire. It's all about efficiency. Why would they look through thousands of applications to find one outstanding candidate from a non-target school when they can find one in 5 minutes from a target school known for producing brilliant kids?</p>
For the record, the Wharton undergraduate degree is not a B.B.A., it is a B.S. in Economics, which it has been since the school's founding as the world's first collegiate school of business in 1881. Among other things, the B.S. degree acknowledges the large arts and sciences component of the Wharton undergraduate curriculum.</p>
<p>truazn8948532: I don't think anecdotal evidence will strengthen your case. To be frank, that policy is downright disgusting, and that firm should be ashamed. I'm glad companies generally aren't so narrow-minded.</p>
<p>truazn, did you even READ what i said? i never once mentioned ANYTHING about the colleges you listed. i simply commented on the type of environment the OP would be set in at stern. name recognition from those schools is obviously a great perk, but it depends on what the student wants to study during his/her undergraduate tenure. going to any one of those schools youve mentioned will give you a leg up anywhere. clearly, however, all you care about is money and making some after you graduate. truazn you are one tool.</p>