<p>"Here are my "best name recognized" colleges list
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, UCLA, MIT, NYU, Texas A&M, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Columbia, Duke"</p>
<p>where did you come up with that list? Texas A&M, what!?</p>
<p>BTW, when I said name recognition, i meant recognition as a good school</p>
<p>Right now, I want everyone that does not live in California to go next door and ask their neighbor about CalTech and tell what their response is!</p>
<p>CalTech does not ring glory bells with the general public like Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton, Yale, or Berkeley. Announcing an acceptance into Duke, Brown, NYU, Notre Dame, or Cornell will gain more attention in a general crowd.</p>
<p>CalTech is not a universally known name of prestige in the general public as sad as it is, to some random person in Jamaica Plains, Georgia Tech will probably get more name recognition, and not for academics.</p>
<p>"PS. I'd never heard of Notre Dame until I came to CC, but I mean..I've heard of like...Swarthmore. And Wesleyan. And even....Macalester?!
So if you really don't follow sports, Notre Dame doesn't seem to have much pull. Nobody I know has heard of it either."</p>
<p>So does the box you live in have a window?</p>
<p>I agree with someone who said. " You don't go to Wharton to impress a fast food manager." My doubles partner on the tennis team went to Penn last year and we'd always tease him because people would congratulate him on his acceptance at "Penn St." and he would get soo peeved off. When he goes for a real job, however, you can bet your bottom dollar the employer will know the difference in academic rigor. Remember your audience and look past Harvard and Yale. The people who's opinions matter most know the top schools.</p>
<p>People haven't heard of Amherst and Williams? Everybody I know has heard of these schools.</p>
<p>Duke, Stanford,Notre Dame, H, Y, Princeton.</p>
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<p>nah, most average people haven't heard of any liberal arts colleges. really. though if they did, they probably don't know what "liberal arts college" really means or the difference from a university, or could mistaken it for "performing arts." </p>
<p>it's even worse in california. most average honors kids don't know anything about liberal arts colleges! perhaps they might've heard of amherst though, but maybe not williams or swarthmore. i've didnt know about them nor have i heard of them being mentioned while i was in high school. and when you tell someone "pomona college," they go "what, cal poly pomona?"</p>
<p>wash u is better than cornell</p>
<p>"they probably don't know what "liberal arts college" really means or the difference from a university"</p>
<p>That's because other than size and scale, there are no real differences. When you receive a B.A. from Cornell, you're receiving a liberal arts degree.</p>
<p>Being a native LA girl, I am in complete agreement with kfc4u. Most kids here don't know Swat or Williams, or the Claremont colleges even though they're about an hour away.</p>
<p>By the way, kfc4u, thanks for the chance evaluations you gave me last year. I got into my dream school!</p>
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<p>"is WashU in washington?"
(haha there's a WashU facebook group something to the extent of "WashU isn't in washington to ignoramous!")</p>
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<p>right. but you didn't go through a liberal arts college environment. that's what i meant. i think the distinction is important for those who are applying to college. </p>
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<p>congrats frozen-tears!</p>
<p>this is really how the prestige thingy should look--</p>
<p>The best of them all: University of Nebraska- Kearney </p>
<p>hahaha just kidding but really, this is what i think...</p>
<p>Tier 1: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Stanford (i mean cmon, hypps)
Tier 2: MIT, Cornell, Columbia,
Tier 3: Brown, Caltech, Duke, Berkeley, Dartmouth
Tier 4: Northwestern, Rice, Notre Dame, U chicago
Tier 5: Johns Hopkins, Emory, NYU, UCLA
Tier 6: Boston College, UNC, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Vanderbilt
Tier 7: UVA, Wake Forest, William and Mary, USC etc.</p>
<p>^ I love how Tufts isn't on there, even though it exceeds BC in every aspect of academics, oh well, I guess I just have to pray that my employers at the NSA know Tufts, lol.</p>
<p>Penn definitely out of the first tier, eve nyou know that Penn shouldn't be nearly that big, and CalTech is about as big a name to the public as William and Mary.
Your entire tier 5, except for Emory could probably swap up with Northwestern and Rice, that big those names are. </p>
<p>Berkeley should be no lower than second tier... oh I'll just do it myself:</p>
<p>Tier 1: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, UCBerkeley
Tier 2: Cornell, Duke, Brown, Penn, Columbia
Tier 3: Dartmouth, Notre Dame, NYU, UCLA, Michigan, Georgetown
Tier 4: Johns Hopkins, UNC, UVA, Northwestern, USC
Tier 5: Rice, U Chicago, Emory, Vanderbilt
Tier 6: William and Mary, Rutgers, Georgia Tech, (couple other flagship schools)
Tier 7: Cal Tech, Tufts, RIT, Wake Forest, Boston College, etc.</p>
<p>Duffman, even in Boston, Tufts is always second rate to atleast one other school in Boston, sometimes even two or three. And so, up here, getting into to Tufts, especiallys at schools in Metrowest, almost means I didn't get into Harvard or MIT. It seems like the only people interested in Tufts are those also applying to the elite, but no one in their right minds apply to Tufts as their dream school (!shock!). That's where Tufts get its second rate standing and appeal, which is sad for such a great university.</p>
<p>BU and Northeastern are in their own wing as dream schools for the slightly above average students around here.</p>
<p>I used to go to Newton North, and there, the kids didn't even realize how good of a school BC was, it was alright, but about as exciting as living in San Francisco and going to UCSantaCruz, no loud hip-hip-horray!</p>
<p>how can you even put a public school (berkley) in the tier of the ivy league schools. thats just ridiculous. Anyways, my opinion is perhaps biased...i just go by us news rankings.</p>
<p>The 1st tier is 1) not all Ivy. 2) is the 1st tier of name recognition not quality of academic institution. 3) is not the top 7 of US News, which does not rank name recognition/prestige, which we are, and you obviously don't understand!</p>
<p>In terms of prestige, Berkeley is recognized world wide as one of our top universities. When we are speaking in terms of the weight a schools name carries in the general public, the eight Ivies are not the eight biggest names.</p>
<p>The one thing the no one hear can debate is that : Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, & Stanford are the biggest five, two of which are not Ivies. UC Berkeley, in terms of global name recognition, UC Berkeley is unquestionably up their, schools such as Dartmouth are nowhere near as big.</p>
<p>Revised rankings: 5 tiers, 5 per tier</p>
<p>Tier 1: Harvard, Yale, MIT, Princeton, Stanford
Tier 2: Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Notre Dame, Duke
Tier 3: Penn, Berkeley, Georgetown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt
Tier 4: Northwestern, Rice, Emory, Boston College, NYU
Tier 5: UNC, Georgia Tech, Michigan, USC, Wake Forest</p>
<p>uchicago is DEFINITELY more recognized than wake forest, or boston college, or emory, or even vanderbilt i think</p>
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<p>Nah not really. Well it depends where you are asking. If you are talking internationally none of the schools you listed are so well known. Most people overseas can name a few Ivies, MIT, NYU, Duke, UT, Berkeley, UNC, BC, BU, etc. There are some universities that are really popular overseas. The big ones here are BC, BU and NYU.</p>