Best overall undergraduate experience

<p>I think all of the top state school would be great undergrad exp. Pretty much all of them have good party scenes, or so ive heard, and have good D1 programs. They are also all in pretty nice places and are good academically. I dont think that the ivys would be the best overall exp. "OMG but they r sacred on this site" u all might say. However, they dont have good D1 sports, there isnt a lot of school spirit from what ive seen, some of them have pretty bad social scenes from what ive heard, and some, such as yale, are in terrible locations, I dont know how many of u have been to new haven, but i thought it was pretty awful.</p>

<p>doctorb:
My post #76 was based on your earlier comment,
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Greek life is very low key at W&M. They throw good parties but its not extremely exclusive. Nothing compared to UNorth Carolina or UVirginia.

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. As I posted above, 17% of students are involved in Greek life at UNC (which has ~17,000 undergraduates). This doesn't seem "extremely exclusive" to me-- and most definitely not, when compared to ~30% undergraduates involved in Greek life at W&M and ~30% at UVA. Again, since "the national average for state schools is 15-18%," by all accounts, both W&M and UVA (both at ~30%) seem to be much more heavily Greek than some other public schools, including UNC.</p>

<p>While Greek life is there for anybody who wants it, and many people do, UNC is certainly a large enough school that having only 17% of students involved in Greek life (~2900 out of ~17,000 students) does not make it "extremely exclusive" nor a dominant feature of the school. </p>

<p>Again, get your facts straight. Please.</p>

<p>The issue is intensity not quantity. There is a big difference. A subtlety that has obviously escaped you.</p>

<p>swish: What has obviously escaped you (and doctorb) is that once a school reaches 30% and upwards in number of undergraduates who are involved in Greek life, both the quantity and the intensity increase. The Greek life then becomes much more of an undergraduate focus for socializing. </p>

<p>Also, you should take into consideration that the more isolated a campus is from its surroundings, and the size of the school in relation to the percentage involved in Greek life, the more intense and dominant the Greek scene is.</p>

<p>Finally, I was not remarking on "intensity" of parties; I think that would be fairly subjective, wouldn't it? I was remarking on doctorb's comment, "extremely exclusive." Perhaps that was too subtle for you, or perhaps neither of you knows what "extremely exclusive" means. If not, look for "exclusive" in a dictionary, then look up "extremely." My post was based on that comment.</p>