Best prestigious schools for Classics major?

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I think any Classics department would be thrilled to rustle up 250 students. Even the basic introductory classes struggle to reach 50 students. :p</p>

<p>According to *Who Killed Homer?<a href="granted,%20a%20bit%20out%20of%20date">/I</a>, nationwide there are five or six Classics professors for every senior Classics major. Class size is rarely an issue, even at the very largest universities.</p>

<p>In 2004 (most recent available), only 855 of the 1.35 million BAs awarded that year were in Classics.</p>

<p>I should add that the 855 figure is very generous, including as it does "classical civilization" tracks which often require no language whatsoever.</p>

<p>In 2005 nationwide only 35 seniors majored in Greek and 89 in Latin. Yep, the field is that tiny.</p>

<p>that number of Latin and Greek majors is way off, if you are talking about all schools across the country...it is far higher than that! A quick Internet seach shows that there are 26 majors listed at Harvard (these are "concentrators" from junior and senior year alone); UC Berkeley says it has 50-60 undergraduate majors.</p>

<p>IB, my response was more geared toward the philosophy rankings.</p>

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  1. The statistic was from four years ago.</p>

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<li><p>The statistic includes only graduating seniors, not all undergraduates.</p></li>
<li><p>The statistic came from the National Center for Education Statistics, which acquired its data directly from the colleges themselves. </p></li>
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Another quick glance shows that Harvard offers six tracks in its Classics department, and Berkeley has four tracks. **Note that the statistic was for people majoring only in Greek or Latin. **The number of seniors at Berkeley and Harvard doing this is exceedingly small. The rest fall into the general pool of 855 students studying Classics.</p>

<p>According to its OIR, Berkeley had only one student majoring in Greek in 2008, and (s)he was the first to do so since 2002. Last year Berkeley had three students majoring in Latin, and over the past 9 years has had an average of 1.75 students majoring in Latin.</p>

<p>According to its Factbook, Harvard awarded two BAs in Greek and one BA in Latin last year.</p>

<p>Wow. The Oberlin classics newsletter for 2006 says that there were 6 graduates in Greek and 9 graduates in Latin that year. (The 2007 newsletter hasn't come out yet.) What does that say about LAC vs. University classics study? There are 20 students enrolled in the Cicero class at Oberlin for next term.</p>

<p>These are all really interesting posts. Thanks to everyone for all the helpful information!</p>

<p>i started my college search from a position very like the original poster's (i'm a HS senior) and since then have been making plane trips & phone calls around a ridiculous number of universities in order to answer more or less the same question. my experience has been that absolute rankings in classics are not very helpful when you're trying to find a program which fits you individually, and that even relatively high-ranked programs can be terrible for individual students. </p>

<p>for example, i visited cornell this october (12 nrc, 11 gourman) and went to a greek class, a latin class, and a (lecture) class in roman history. yes, they were small: i counted 5 students in greek and about 10 in latin. yes, the material was presented in a fairly engaging way. yes, the professors were well-regarded in their fields. but the classes themselves were at a standard well below what i expect from my (not elite) high school; students in these 300-level classes were making errors i would be surprised to see in an AP latin class. when i met with the DUS that day, he effectively told me that the school was a terrible fit for me.</p>

<p>let me emphasize that this was not either because i'm an intellectual snob or because, contrary to rankings, cornell has a poor classics department. it's because, in the words of the DUS, that particular undergrad program focuses on students who start greek and latin in college. moreover, even undergrads who start with more background have little choice but to stay in this program, because cornell's grad classes really are meant for grad students and as such have reading in secondary languages (french, german, italian). the DUS' advice to me was to seek the school with the largest combined (grad and undergrad) program. this kind of program serves highly prepared undergrads best, because it can offer both high-level courses that still have undergrad focus (i.e. don't require skills you didn't get in high school) and at least some grad courses that are realistic for undergrads. </p>

<p>naturally, i was irritated to hear all of this in october, after i thought i had already finalized my college list (based almost entirely on what i perceived as the quality of classics departments). i had decided that i was a big-prestigious-school kind of person; afterward, i became a big-prestigious-program kind of person. i applied to schools where i had had minimal interest before (michigan, columbia, chicago, tri-co) and struck schools which i loved as institutions but where the departments were just too small (cornell, stanford, penn). if i hadn't seen strength in classics as the driver of my college decisions, i would have stayed with the schools which were good for me in general but poor in my field. this might also become your situation.</p>

<p>the lesson here is that it pays to decide early what your academic needs are and how important it is to you that your college meet them as fully as possible. if you were a pre-med, you would make decisions based on school's premed-friendliness; if you think of yourself as a pre-doctoral student, it makes sense to choose based on classics programs. if not, don't make your college search beholden to something that's not critically important.</p>

<p>Johns Hopkins has a TOP classics program with some of the best professors in the nation.</p>

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Don't get too carried away. JHU's program is good but not great. It's much stronger in art than in literature (quite a few faculty are cross-listed), and it leans toward Latin. Alan Shapiro is the only really "big name" classics professor there.</p>