<p>W&M is the premiere small public school in the country. The others listed are at least 3x as large and are more research oriented with more focus on grad schools. W&M is more LAC experience. By definition W&M has virtually no peer in the state school universe.</p>
<p>Omniscient1- Add Rutgers to your Tier 3, it's about as good as Penn State</p>
<p>Note that W&M is an apple among all the other oranges. At 6000 undergrads, it's more like an elite private university than are schools with 20-30,000 undergrads. Anonymity creates a very different campus culture than you'll find at a small to modeate-sized institution.</p>
<p>Tone and Omni are both missing Pitt and Indiana</p>
<p>I'm from NY so here are the top SUNY's</p>
<p>Geneseo, Binghamton, Buffalo, Stony Brook, Hunter (CUNY)</p>
<p>Berkeley is the undisputed best Public school. Then UCLA, U Mich, UNC, and UVA all can vy as being the 2nd best.</p>
<p>those are good picks i looked it up and saw that upenn was private...dont think unc is that good of a school though..and what exactly make va good? thanks for the opinions</p>
<p>UNC-Chapel Hill is definitely a good school, and UVa out of state is harder to get into then some of the most elite universities, a friend of mine was accepted at cornell and nyu but rejected from UVa oos</p>
<p>UVa's Mcintire school of business is top 5. Most of the top publics we mentioned (Berkeley, UCLA, U of Michigan, UNC, UVa) are generally in the top 20 for most of the respective majors. Rankings also deal with graduation rates/student to teacher ratio/ etc etc. Getting into any of those schools is a huge accomplishment since they are all top 30 and ull be surprised how difficult it now it to get into ANY of them, even if you are instate. So before discounting UVA and UNC do realize your stats better be DAMN good to get into them as OOS its like getting into a fairly elite private.</p>
<p>Couple of years ago - girl in our neighborhood got accepted to Princeton - and waitlisted at UVA - hah! I know Cornell students who were rejected at UVA. They are REALLY tough. UNC too.</p>
<p>If you thought UPenn is a public school, I really don't think your opinion about UNC-CH means anything.</p>
<ol>
<li>W&M</li>
<li>Cal</li>
<li>Mich/UVA</li>
<li>UCLA/UNC-CH</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>GaTech</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>Penn State/UF/UT</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
</ol>
<p>this is just personal opinion....(unfortunatly.... i hate wash, uf, gatech and illinois!!)</p>
<p>Cal
Mich/UVA/McGill (nobody said it had to be US)
UCLA
UNC-CH
Wisconsin
UCSD
UIUC
UDUB</p>
<p>yeah my friend said it is extremely hard to get into uva or unc if ur OOS... similar situation to u toneranger my friend got into duke and rice and waitlisted at unc</p>
<p>UVA, UMich</p>
<p>There are many underrated public schools around the country. Try answering these questions and see if you can identify these schools?</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Can you name the public school that has over 29,000 students that ranked in the Top 10% of their high school class? </p></li>
<li><p>Which public school(s) has 99% of their incoming students coming from the Top 10% of their high school class?</p></li>
<li><p>Which public schools had over 6000 entering students who scored 1400 or higher on the SATs?</p></li>
</ol>
<p>While public universities may not have the consistent high quality of the top privates for the student body as a whole, there is definitely a subset of students at nearly all of the public universities that is statistically competitive with students at the top privates.</p>
<ol>
<li>Who needs a life?</li>
</ol>
<p>A: Hawkette.</p>
<p>top: berkley, umich, uva (in that order)
2nd: UNC, UCLA, Illinois....etc etc.</p>
<p>trizkutt: by that logic, all CCers need to get a life. =)</p>
<p>b3n/ineligible name: um, unc is MUCH harder to get into OOS than uva. try 36% OOS vs 18% OOS (UNC).</p>