<p>^^ that graduate ranking is also based solely on peer assessment, on other words: it could not be more arbitrary</p>
<p>Some of you are giving really bad advice IMO. Just because a school does well in newsweek does not mean they will do well for high profile positions out of school. </p>
<p>My rankings for undergrad only
1) UPenn-Wharton, Harvard Econ or Math related majors
1a) Harvard-other</p>
<p>2) Williams, UVA, UMich, Princeton, UChicago - Econ, Stanford
2a) Columbia, Wellesley, NYU-Stern, Duke, Georgetown-McDonnell
2b) Middlebury, Amherst, MIT, Dartmouth, Notre Dame, Yale, Northwestern
2c) Cornell
There is not a huge difference between 2 2a 2b, but there enough a distinctive difference to seperate them out
3) Brown, Emory, Texas-McCombs, Villanova, BU, BC, Babson, Tufts, Washington and Lee, UNC, IU, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, U of Wisconsin</p>
<p>This is not an educational ranking, only a recruiting one for job prospects in business. I have yet to see anyone from WashU-st louis or any real recruiting done there regardless of how newsweek ranks them. So relying on newsweek for job prospects can be deceptive.</p>
<p>Chicago Econ is better than Harvard's. MIT's might rival Chicago so you're right there Sakky..</p>
<p>The econ degree is great at Chicago, I'm sure, but probably what makes it so great has to do with the type of student who ends up enrolling at Chicago. To refer back to an earlier post about a businessman who decided to pursue a liberal arts education and learn how to learn rather than learn how to make money, I think Chicagoans develop the ability to learn how to learn (through the core) and then learn how to make gobloads of money (through the econ degree). In that way, I might argue that a Chicago education has more "value," simply as an end in itself-- and then as a means to do well professionally.</p>
<p>Amusing anecdote:</p>
<p>A friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend does recruiting for a big-name firm in New York. He's been working for them for a long time, in many different capacites, and he just recently was promoted to the head of recruiting. We were at a party together and we started talking about one of his specialities-- colleges.</p>
<p>I mentioned that my brother was an econ/math major at Cornell, to which he replied, "Oh, great school!" and that I was at the University of Chicago, to which he said, "Wow, everybody I interview from Chicago is really intense." We also talked about the quality of a lot of schools that have been mentioned in this thread, and he agreed that they were all great places that turned over, by and large, strong candidates.</p>
<p>What he did mention, though, that passion, drive, and ability meant a whole lot more to him than the name of a school.</p>
<p>"I mean, I went to Rutgers," he said.</p>
<p>My rankings for undergrad only
1) UPenn-Wharton, Harvard Econ or Math related majors
1a) Harvard-other</p>
<p>2) Williams, UVA, UMich, Princeton, UChicago - Econ, Stanford
2a) Columbia, Wellesley, NYU-Stern, Duke, Georgetown-McDonnell
2b) Middlebury, Amherst, MIT, Dartmouth, Notre Dame, Yale, Northwestern
2c) Cornell
There is not a huge difference between 2 2a 2b, but there enough a distinctive difference to seperate them out
3) Brown, Emory, Texas-McCombs, Villanova, BU, BC, Babson, Tufts, Washington and Lee, UNC, IU, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, U of Wisconsin</p>
<p>I disagree with some of this. For purely consulting, as the link is available on CC, consulting firms are ultra selective. There are only a handful of schools that make most of the "target" lists. These include Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Wharton (UPenn), Dartmouth, Duke, Northwestern, and Columbia. </p>
<p>Even UChicago is not on many of these lists. Nor is Cornell.</p>
<p>For banking, we have a different story. Any top 25 school can you land you in an IB. I think there is a misconception that ranking is the full picture. A school like Tufts is not well recruited in comparison to others. Nor is Johns Hopkins. However, a school like Gtown (not ranked that high) has some very good recruitment on campus.</p>
<p>For banking, I would say, the list would be:</p>
<p>Wharton, Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Princeton, </p>
<p>Upenn CAS, Dartmouth, Columbia, and as much as i don't want to admit, Cornell (Cornell is highly recruited simply b/c of its close proximity to New York and large student body, not necessarily because it has the most talent)</p>
<p>Duke, Northwestern, UChicago, Williams, Amherst, Brown, Michigan Ross, Georgetown</p>
<p>Rice, Emory, Johns Hopkins, Swarthmore, UVA</p>
<p>NU grad is right.</p>
<p>NUGrad, Cornell is not that close to NYC. It is roughly 250 miles away. Brown is closer to NYC than Cornell. Dartmouth is only 50 miles further away from NYC than Cornell. </p>
<p>I also don't agree with your grouping. I would say all the universities in your third group should be in group two. And I am not sure why you singled out Ross at Michigan. Yes, Ross has a larger concentration of students interested in IBanking, but IBanks recruit heavily at the colleges of LSA and Engineering too.</p>
<p>Finally, for consulting recruitment, you forgot to mention MIT and Michigan. They are both highly recruited by consulting firms, particularly the big ones like Bain, BCG and McKinsey.</p>
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<p>I doubt that it's any more arbitrary than a simple assertion that Chicago has the best economics program in the world.</p>
<p>The title of the thread is "Best Undergrad For Business?" Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Duke don't even have business programs. Anyways, Alexandre, don't forget about BYU. Don't be mistaken by the harcore mormons; every undergrad business ranking on the web has BYU in the top 10. Mitt Romney for President 2008.</p>
<p>haha mitt...i think by best undergrad for business- the poster may have meant what schools would get you most ready for business or something along those lines (i could be wrong tho)</p>
<p><em>sigh</em></p>
<p>Hasn't this question been asked a thousand times already?</p>
<p>If you're talking about schools that TEACH business, the top are clearly Wharton #1, MIT #2, Stern #3. </p>
<p>I also have a HUGE fondness for Babson which has a great program, great spirit and a lot of respect within the business community. I wouldn't pick it over Wharton but I WOULD pick it over many others.</p>
<p>If you're talking about undergrad colleges that are the best to get in the business world, regardless of major, an econ degree from MIT/UChicago/Harvard/LSE is gold to get into finance.</p>
<p>NUGrad, I believe this is the link you were referring to in post#25:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=235587%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=235587</a></p>
<p>It would be great if that list was accurate (since I'll be going to NU!) but there are links on another thread showing that Brown, which is listed as a 1/5, is recruited by at least 3 MC firms. The absence of an official link to the vault rankings is suspicious too.</p>