<p>I agree. If your planning at studying phil at all I'd go to NYU (Great phil department). If you're planning on pure finance, nothing else, NW.</p>
<p>how's nd for ibanking? if i do well in econ and math, can I get a job in ibanking?</p>
<p>My other choice is cornell, which i know is a bit better, but I hate the east coast, and nd is a better fit for me. I'm just worried that, by going to nd, I'll sacrifice a prospective career in ibanking.</p>
<p>You're turning down Cornell and NU for Notre Dame? That's going to bite you in the ass.</p>
<p>Cornell blows ND out of the water for investment banking.</p>
<p>I can't even remember if my SA class had 1 person from ND</p>
<p>is nd really that inferior to cornell.</p>
<p>yes (10 char)</p>
<p>ND is not good for IB.</p>
<p>If you're just in it for banking recruitment, go to Cornell.</p>
<p>Personally, I think it's a bit foolish to pick a school purely based on 'target' status because you may not even like banking a few years down the line. Go where you will be happy and go where you will thrive. The rest will take care of itself. Would you really pick Cornell over a school you like better (ND, I presume), have a miserable time in Ithaca, let your grades plummet, and not even be invited for interviews?</p>
<p>Northwestern over NYU CAS bigtime.</p>
<p>What about the banks in the chicago areas. I thought ND was well represented there. I prefer chi-town to nyc anyday. And besides, I'm 18, I don't know if I even want to banking: I love writing and am also considering law. Does success in the ibanking world really depend that much on whether one chooses ND over Cornell. What about that individual's drive, work ethic, etc? Are ibanks really that stupid?</p>
<p>Did your parents not teach you how to read? Go wherever you want to go. End of story.</p>
<p>many students at Nd turn down supposedly better schools. Does that render their careers, should they desire to be in ibanking, much more unsuccessful? I know a few people who are also turning down cornell, duke, northwestern for nd, will they now be out of contention? Ironically, I met a few people at NU who did not get into ND. Why would a bank want a lesser worker?</p>
<p>thanks for the much needed advice aworldapart.</p>
<p>Lesser worker? Are you kidding me? Newsflash: There's no difference between the people at harvard and the people at UNC when it comes to ibanking. It's not like the people at harvard are taught this special skill, or that they are going to be better bankers. You're going to run into smart kids at every school, and idiots at every school...</p>
<p>You need to get out and live in the real world because reality is going to hit you hard if you keep up your current points of view.</p>
<p>I agree with LaxAttack, if you go to Harvard, Princeton, Wharton etc, and you graduate and start working at an IB, you will find that many of your co-workers attended schools far less prestigious than yours, and are making the same money as you are and are in the same position as you are....once you go out into the working world, the chances of you rising to the executive ranks and making the big bucks will have nothing to do with where you spent your undergraduate years....I've been told this by a friend of mine who graduated from U Mich (not Ross), worked at Lehman for 4 years, and is now at Wharton for MBA</p>
<p>Thanks for the support lax. I knew, even as an 18 year old, that one's school does not completely determine his or her career, as malasy. . . would like us to believe. Even aside from career success, isn't it important to enjoy life? I certainly think so, and hopefully malasy realizes the sheer vanity of his chase after wind and his condemnation of those choosing to go to the awful Notre Dame instead of Cornell. Utterly pathetic and sickening. Thanks again quag and lax for backing up my beliefs. </p>
<p>For clarification, lax, you misunderstood what i was saying. The lesser worker aspect, as I stated it, was in reference to the comparison of person A and person B. Person A is more intelligent/ hard-working/ potential to succeed while Person B is not as intelligent/ hard-working/ potential to succeed. Person B goes to Northwestern, Person A goes to a "lesser school", which malays feels nd is; my question is, assuming the current trends continued with A and B, why would a bank hire person B? Wouldn't they hire the best potential candidate regardless of the school?</p>
<p>you clearly misunderstood me lax. I apologize for not explaining it more the first time.</p>
<p>"London is a bit different though because the laws there make it much easier for firms to hire internationals. In the US visa laws are very tight, such that top firms sometimes have to settle for slightly less qualified Americans to fill their NY offices due to visas for better qualified internationals not going through. In these cases they usually reassign the international to London where there is much less red tape."</p>
<p>^ quoted from naura - don't know how to put it in the box</p>
<p>Do you think that from a US target school an international is more likely to get a visa for an internship than for permanent, or is it just as hard?</p>
<p>Also, do you think that this excessive tightening of visa laws might change a bit when Bush leaves?</p>
<p>Yes they would hire the more qualified/"better" candidate but the problem is you have thousands, probably tens of thousands of applications and you have to decide who the most qualified candidates are. You can't do 10,000 interviews so you decide to interview the people from teh top schools, it only makes sense. </p>
<p>The hardest part of snagging IB is getting the interview, which is largely in part to the school you're at or who you know. Once you get the interview you are on the same playing field as everybody else and it's up to you to get the job because you're either going to impress in your interview or you're not.</p>
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<p>I don't know.</p>
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<p>Do you think the US will stop policing the world when Bush leaves?</p>
<p>ok, lax, but nd's alumni network is insane, and Im sure some nd grads are in ibanking ===> interview.</p>
<p>Do you think the US will stop policing the world when Bush leaves?</p>
<p>That's not quite what I said. I don't know if you're trying to express some sort of political view there, talking about policing the world. US visa regulations are the US' responsibility, of course they're going to take care of it, it's hardly policing the world. And FYI visa laws have not always been so tight under other political leaders.</p>