<p>what are some of the best universities in the midwest? (private or public)</p>
<p>Chicago, Michigan, Northwestern, Notre Dame</p>
<p>Stepping down a little- Indiana, Wisconsin, Illinois</p>
<p>Despite the bad rap that Washington University in St. Louis seems to get on this board (mainly because of its aggressive marketing strategy), I think it is a great school!</p>
<p>Private: Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, Notre Dame, Case Western
Public: Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Ohio State, Iowa</p>
<p>I agree about WUSTL.</p>
<p>I would also recommend taking a look at LAC's like Grinnell, Oberlin, Carleton, Macalester et sequitur. I say this as a religous convert who went to a university, with a spouse that went to a university and has worked as an administrator at UCLA for nearly 25 years. I didn't know diddly about LAC's until we started visiting. Side by side comparisons were striking.</p>
<p>To add on to the smaller liberal arts schools, Illinois Wesleyan University and Wheaton College are both very good liberal arts schools in Illinois. Wheaton College is quite religious though.</p>
<p>Nice to hear Illinois Wesleyan get mentioned for a change. I would add Grinnell, Lawrence, Knox, Rose Hulman, and Kenyon</p>
<p>Other great liberal arts schools in the midwest: Grinnell, Carleton, Macalester, St. Olaf, Lawrence U, Beloit, Earlham, Kenyon, Oberlin, Wittenberg, Knox.</p>
<p>these are all really great, and it's nice to hear earlham, wittenberg and ohio state get mentioned, makes my heart happy</p>
<p>here is the list so far:
Grinnel
Carleton
Macalester
St. Olaf
Lawrence U.
Beloit
Earlham
Kenyon
Oberlin
Wittenberg
Knox
Illinois Weseleyan
Rose Hulman
Wheaton College
Chicago
Northwestern
Ohio State
WashU
Notre Dame
Case Western
Michigan
Wisconsin
Illinois
Indiana
Purdue
Iowa</p>
<p>and my own addition:
denison</p>
<p>What does everyone think of IU? I know it's not nearly the caliber of Northwestern, Notre Dame, etc, but how does it compare to other midwestern state schools.? Would a motivated, smart student be able to get a good education there?</p>
<p>Yes, I think it's a GREAT school. I don't know it well enough to compare it with anything, but I've only heard really good things, academically and otherwise. Of course, you'll be around some unmotivated students, but you have to accept that at a public university. If you're willing to take control of your education, IU is a splendid choice</p>
<p>Celebrian why are you happy to have OSU listed. If its a good school, so is pretty much any state school in the country. The kids from my school who went there were pretty much bottom of the class, not even close to the Michigan kids.</p>
<p>I don't give a crap about Michigan to tell you the truth. People here in ohio have pride in their schools- as do I. It wouldn't matter if it was fourth tier, I would love it all the same. It is improving, whether or not stupid elite people think so. It now has an average gpa of 3.4. It provides an EXCELLENT education. I like to think I'm a traditional midwesterner, someone who sticks to tradition, and OSU is a school rich in it. Perhaps this is something only Ohioans can understand.</p>
<p>OSU doesn't have an academic reputation whatsoever in the national scope, it's just known for its football excellence. Please tell me which programs are good at OSU? How about at USC and Notre Dame? I ask this question because many people just say those 3 schools are great for academics, but in reality, they're not - they're just good in football and are overrated in academics.</p>
<p>Notre Dame has undergraduate excellence though, and high entrance standards. USC is similar. Literally anyone can go to OSU (OSU Newark has a 100% accept rate and automatic admission into the main campus). Its never been ranked above 50 in any general rankings, although their business program is top 25 usually.</p>
<p>its so sad OSU kids get their school pride from football. i wonder what they will do now.</p>
<p>USC = rich kid's school, sorry but it's true. My school's average GPA acceptance: 3.6, SAT: 1300...Average income of those students: $200,000 to $5,000,000.</p>
<p>My favorite OSU football memory is seeing Woody Hayes (legendary head coach) run onto the field to punch a Clemson player who intercepted a pass to seal the victory for his team in a bowl game. The funniest thing is that Woody was such an institution that the announcers couldn't bring themselves to acknowledge what all of their viewers had seen.</p>
<p>OSU does NOT accept everyone. There are many instances I know of personally of kids with 3.5 GPAs who were not admitted. Yes, when I went there in 1975 everyone got in...not anymore. Off the top of my head I believe they are a top 10 school for Japanese, Business, Pharmacy, Vet Med, and I think one of the engineering schools.</p>