<p>Title explains it all. I know this is the Cornell forum with many Cornell students, but try to be unbiased.</p>
<p>Cornell is better than Penn in everything w/ the exception of business.</p>
<p>It's wonder how Penn's ranked above MIT and Stanford and Cornell can't even make top ten. Goes to show just how ****ed up USNWR can be.</p>
<p>and, clearly, there's your unbiased answer.
i'd hazard a guess that EH was rejected from penn and this is his form of cognitive dissonance.</p>
<p>i go to penn, and both programs, i hear, are excellent. i am a bio major and there are ample opportunities for research and great facilities at penn. at penn, you can create a concentration in your bio major, taking classes in one of four categories- neuroscience, molecular, genetic, and ecology. i am not doing this, because it is more restrictive than what i want, but if you are focused on something, it may be a good option.
since i do not go to cornell, i cannot and will not comment on their program, but i am sure it is a great one, as well.</p>
<p>They are both going to be top notch, so it comes down to which College you like best. If you are fortunate to get into both go with the one you feel most comfortable about; don't choose penn over cornell b/c it is ranked higher or better and don't choose cornell over penn for the same reasons, in the end the programs are very strong, and it comes down to the atmoshperes at each of the colleges</p>
<p>i love penn,</p>
<p>cognitive dissonance? I didn't even apply to penn so I really can't make any sense of your accusations. </p>
<p>I still find it interesting how Penn outranks stanford and MIT. I think USNWR is really odd for ranking like this and I'm not the only one who shares this opinion.</p>
<p>So does everyone else who share my opinion have a "cognitive dissonance"?</p>
<p>stop trolling and get a life.</p>
<p><em>sigh</em> </p>
<p>You're the first one here who started throwing personal insults. So why don't you take a good look in the mirror before telling me to "stop trolling and get a life":) </p>
<p>You still haven't answered my question yet. If someone else shares my opinion, would they have "cognitive dissonance"?</p>
<p>i agree with eternity_hope2005.</p>
<p>a majority of the people outside of wharton at penn pretty much wanted to be in wharton and hope to transfer to wharton. it can not be denied that when people talk about upenn, they talk first and foremost about wharton and nothing else. it is not known for the sciences, although im sure being an elite school, they have a reputatable program.</p>
<p>cornell on the other hand, has always been known as a university on heavy research focus and has strong sciences/engineering programs at the undergraduate level.</p>
<p>You can't go wrong with either school, especially at the undergraduate level. It is very easy to get involved with research as an undergraduate at Cornell. I assume it is just as easy to do so at Penn, but I am not sure.</p>
<p>Visit both schools and see which one you like better. The environments are very different.</p>
<p>In refute to eternity and confidential's claims about Penn college students being wannabe Whartonites - the reason Wharton is talked about so much at Penn is because it is one of only 2 ivy league schools with an undergraduate business program, so all the best business students are drawn there. In other fields, however, the best kids are more spread out, so the College of Arts and Sciences simply doesn't get talked about as much.</p>
<p>bottom line, like others have said - bothe have strong programs with good job placement (I can't speak as much for Cornell, but one of Penn's advantages is that they really get you where you need to be in terms of job contacts), so apply where you think you'd be happier.</p>
<p>in defense of penn. It's a frickin ivy league. It obviously has a very very good arts college. Cornell does as well. Cornell is (not exclusively) extra strong in the research/science areas. I do not know penn's strengths, but it is most certainly not full of wharton wannabe's. More like it's full of incredibly smart people destined for success in life if they choose that path. Just like cornell :) Pick based on campus environment, etc., unless one school has a clearly far superior program. People say "of course I'd pick harvard over brown," and such, but that is a big mistake. If harvard is your thing it's the right decision, but harvard might not be. At this level of educational institution, the resources at each school are so great, the teachers are so incredible, and the students are so smart that it won't make a difference which top 20 college you go to. Harvard is 1, Emory is 20. Theres a reputation difference, and a little difference in the quality of students, but I mean, what kind of business would say, "oh, you only went to Emory?" see my point.</p>