<p>^lol...assuming sarcasm here. But if not, good luck finding that campus. :) </p>
<p>Btw addressing the 'solely Gothic comment' from post 19...isn't Duke's older East Campus, strictly neoclassic/Georgian...none of the newer Gothic-styled buildings from the early 1900s as found on West Campus? And there are plenty of modern-styled buildings on central campus as well.</p>
<p>I thought the West Campus was the older campus? But you're right. The East Campus definitley is neoclassic/Georgian architecture.</p>
<p>I visited Duke and UNC on the same day...and I HATED the Gothic architecture. The campus atmosphere seemed gaudy, and I wasn't impressed at all. I liked the natural environment however. </p>
<p>UNC wasn't beyond amazing by any means, but still met my expectations as a Public university.</p>
<p>East Campus was built before West Campus.
(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_University%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_University</a>) </p>
<p>Never visited UNC.. but Duke definitely has one of the best campuses I have seen (except possibly Princeton..nah, Princeton and Duke are at a tie.)</p>
<p>Hmm.. I may find myself saying UNC has a better campus if I get rejected from Duke. :p!</p>
<p>jk of course!</p>
<p>jovenes, you must be tough to please lol.</p>
<p>I've visited both (I'm the OP, btw), and I have to say that I do like Duke's campus better. While gothic architecture isn't quite my thing (although I still think it's beyond impressive) I must say that the forest feel is quite awesome, especially when you visit on a bright summer day. I was actually just looking for people to tell me they thought UNC was better so that if I get accepted as a transfer (knock on wood), I won't regret not re-applying to Duke (former ED deferral/rejection.) </p>
<p>Anyways, thank you so much for your opinions.</p>
<p>If you get into UNC, UNC is better :) And you can always swing by Duke on the Robertson bus - just take some Duke folks over to Franklin St. to trade environments.</p>
<p>ldmom06 - I think the Duke Law School building, all by itself, provides more "randomness" than any five UNC buildings combined :) It started off as red-brick Georgian, they then added a brown marble...neo-classical? (I think of it as Batman I-esque). Then they added external staircases that are wrought iron. NOW they have refaced half the red brick with brown brick.</p>
<p>It's... random. And saying Central is "styled" at all is probably pushing it. I lived there for three years, absolutely loved having an apartment that close to campus and having a kitchen and my own commons room and instant access to the forest, but...egads. One reason to stay inside is you couldn't see the building you were in...</p>
<p>lol...DukeEgr93 - I think I saw some pictures of those apartments. Ah well...when you're a college student, I suppose you don't really care about the aesthetics. Back in the day, I distinctly remember my husband proudly showing off his cinderblock and 2x4 bookcases as if they were fine furniture. :)</p>
<p>Coola, hdavid and other Duke fans - Truthfully, a year ago, I was really raving on about that beautiful 'Gothic' architecture when I was trying to get my d to apply to Duke. She refused...fiercely determined to be a Tarheel not a Blue Devil. Now I'm working on my younger one (he's also one of their 'Tip'sters). Maybe I'll end up with that 'family fued' bumper sticker yet. (btw...coola, it's a bit harder to get in UNC from oos than Duke, but best wishes on both.)</p>
<p>As I've said, both UNC and Duke blow me away. Love the hills, the forests, the STATE of NC...and both campuses. My d's dorm at UNC has a forested natural valley with bridges/decks for a back yard! Both schools are beautiful in slightly different ways.</p>
<p>Not to push the UNC thing too hard on the Duke Board (but hey....it WAS asked..), I love the aerial shot of part of the campus that is at this link. My d's dorm is in that forest just above the football stadium....which btw, is so nicely tucked into the center of campus. :)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unc.edu/news/facts.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.unc.edu/news/facts.shtml</a></p>
<p>"(btw...coola, it's a bit harder to get in UNC from oos than Duke, but best wishes on both.)"</p>
<p>I have heard this, but have never really seen anything to substantiate it. All oos kids that my son knows who applied to both were accepted at UNC and not all accepted at Duke. He did go to a NE prep school, so that may make a difference.</p>
<p>^I read the oos acceptance rate at UNC hovers in the 18%-19% range (a statistic not to be confused with the 18% oos statute) and Duke's lowest acceptance rate which I believe was last year is about 21-22%. The links to the proof are here on the CC Board, posted by a regular. Not sure how to search for it though. So, just a tad bit more difficult for an oos candidate to get in at UNC than Duke. </p>
<p>It's hard to base anything on just the kids you know. Three of four applicants from my d's school were accepted at Duke. None were NMF, all were scattered across the top 10%, but only one had significant ECs and awards. Can't even begin to make an evaluation about UNC-CH, since my d was the first and only in the entire school district to apply there.</p>
<p>If you grew up in a gated community, then you will feel right at home at Duke.</p>
<p>UNC's lower acceptance rate doesn't mean it's more difficult. You have to measure the strength of the applicant pool. I have no data, but suspect Duke draws the tougher, more competitive pool.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://admissions.unc.edu/faq/applying.htm#outofstate%5B/url%5D">http://admissions.unc.edu/faq/applying.htm#outofstate</a>, UNC's OOS admit rate is around 18-19%. As GreenShirt mentions, that is not a direct indicator of how hard it is to get in. I'd probably stay away from the subjective term "difficult" on this one, overall - it <em>is</em> harder for the people applying oos to UNC to get in than the people applying to Duke, but there's no way to make a direct comparison about what that means for an individual applying to both.</p>
<p>It is what it is Greenshirt. The profile of oos candidates at UNC on are par with most highly selectives. And I wouldn't even venture a guess as to what sort of pool Duke or UNC draws with 'no data'. That would be foolhardy. ;)</p>
<p>In my d's little school example, my d, who only applied to UNC-CH, was a NMF, with top shelf ecs/awards. The four Duke applicants were okay, but only one had significant ecs/awards and none were NMF. So if you were to draw a conclusion from that, your premise would be wrong. Again, I do think it is hard to look at small, isolated examples for conclusions...and I wouldn't. But I also think that schools, such as UNC or UVa, which are well known for small oos populations do draw a self-selecting extremely competitive applicant pool and therefore do create a highly selective admissions process. In fact, my d almost didn't apply to UNC because she thought she didn't stand a chance. :-)</p>
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It is what it is Greenshirt.
Disraelian?</p>
<p>^Ellisian.</p>
<p>I haven't seen Duke, but Princeton really is like something out of a fairytale. Soo pretty. So is Yale.</p>
<p>I liked Princeton more than Duke... but they both were amazing...</p>