<p>i'm choosing between the two and time is running short! i am not 100% sure what i want to study but i think it will be economics with the goal of some kind of business career.
i want to have a great college experience, so I am looking for some place that will give me a great 4 yrs. i am a non-drinker.</p>
<p>opinions?</p>
<p>(cross-posted)</p>
<p>If you still haven't figured it out, you aren't Harvard material so go to Princeton.</p>
<p>Princeton for undergrad (great 4yrs? non-drinker?)</p>
<p>Harvard for grad (economics and business?)</p>
<p>You are totally capable of doing it</p>
<p>Harvard doesn't even send that many undergrads to its own grad schools</p>
<p>There are 241 Harvard College graduates at Harvard Law in 2006-2007 year, compared to just 54 from Princeton, 113 from Yale, and 79 from Stanford.</p>
<p>The picture is similar at Harvard Medical and Harvard Business Schools.</p>
<p>I might also mention that Yale Law School has more Harvard College graduates than Yale College graduates, making it the most represented undergraduate institution. There are 89 Harvard College grads at Yale Law compared to just 34 from Princeton, 42 from Stanford, and 86 from Yale College.
<a href="http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html</a></p>
<p>When I intereviewed at Yale Medical School, Harvard College was also the most represented undergrad school there, over Yale College. Same thing at Columbia and Penn Medical Schools. </p>
<p>Not surprisingly, studies confirm that Harvard College dominates the list of top "feeder schools" to top graduate schools:
<a href="http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf</a></p>
<p>But as I said, if you are not smart enough to have it figured out by now, by all means, go to the lesser school. You might be happier there. Being a bigger fish in a smaller pond might be good for your ego.</p>
<p>he is most likely to be going to business school you have stats for that?</p>
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But as I said, if you are not smart enough to have it figured out by now, by all means, go to the lesser school. You might be happier there. Being a bigger fish in a smaller pond might be good for your ego.
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<p>Of course, if you have this kind of attitude, maybe Harvard's the place for you.</p>
<p>But seriously, I had that choice, I made my pick, and I have no regrets. I'm sure my cousins up in Cambridge feel the same way. Most students will fit in just fine at either.</p>
<p>For Econ itself, both schools are top-notch. On the business side, Princeton's got ORFE (Operations Research and Financial Engineering) the Finance certificate, and the High-Tech Entrepreneurship stuff from CIEE, all great for business education. If I had to, I'd guess Harvard's got equivalents of its own, and since business is something where the education occurs mostly in the real world, you're really fine going to either.</p>
<p>I don't know if this really helped you picking a school, but I wanted to cut through some of the crap accumulating so early on this thread. PM me if you have any questions.</p>
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I might also mention that Yale Law School has more Harvard College graduates than Yale College graduates, making it the most represented undergraduate institution. There are 89 Harvard College grads at Yale Law compared to just 34 from Princeton, 42 from Stanford, and 86 from Yale College.
<a href="http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html</a>
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<p>ske293, you are a complete idiot. "Harvard University" (the institution named on your lists) is not the same as Harvard College. You think everyone goes to professional school when they're 22, straight out of college?? I can assure you that they don't. Harvard's numbers represent some 19,000 students, while Princeton's represent only 6,000. You think nobody has ever gone to Podunk U (or Princeton for that matter), gone to Harvard for a master's or even a graduate certificate program, and then gone to Yale Law? That, Super Intelligent Harvard Student, makes them Harvard University graduates, not Podunk or Princeton graduates. That is why Harvard's numbers are so much higher than Princeton's on that list. I don't deny that Harvard College sends more graduates to top grad schools than Princeton, but the ratio is hardly 89 to 34. The "feeder school" list is more like it.</p>
<p>The appropriate figures for comparison are:</p>
<p>Princeton: 4,720 undergraduates
Harvard: 6,736 undergraduates</p>
<p>My kid choose H over Yale and Princeton. But it was beacuse of $$$$$ and she found Harvard a better fit. She was ittle turned off from eating clubs. But it is very minor. You would be fine wherever you choose to attend. These are eually good choices. Good luck</p>
<p>Again, in terms of "great 4-years of college," I would never turn down </p>
<p>Princeton.</p>
<p>"You think nobody has ever gone to Podunk U (or Princeton for that matter), gone to Harvard for a master's or even a graduate certificate program, and then gone to Yale Law? That, Super Intelligent Harvard Student, makes them Harvard University graduates, not Podunk or Princeton graduates. That is why Harvard's numbers are so much higher than Princeton's on that list."</p>
<p>Extremely unlikely. Grad schools classify their students based on their undergraduate institution, not by where they got their extension school diploma.</p>
<p>Harvard College students tend to go for the #1 grad school, not just top 5 or top 10 grad school, the same way the went for the #1 college, not just top 5 college. Which is why Harvard students are overrepresented at the top 5 grad schools ("feeder school" list) but even more overrepresented at the #1 grad school. Hence the higher Harvard to Princeton ratio at the #1 schools compared to at top 5 schools.</p>
<p>Princeton is an excellent, excellent school and you will have a very good chance of getting into the top grad schools from Princeton. It just will be a little less than if you were from Harvard.</p>
<p>Princeton was #2 choice for me as well, and I would've gone there if I hadn't gone to Harvard. I didn't care for Yale because it wasn't very strong in the physical sciences. I'm from New York City and Princeton is closer to NY, something that alumni recruiters mentioned at least a couple times after I got into Princeton. What were they thinking??? They thought I wanted to be closer to home or something?? They also mentioned the so-called "emphasis on undergrad education" countless times as well, but I didn't fall for that one, which is largely a big myth with a tiny, tiny grain of truth. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.</p>
<p>In the end, I just thought that Princeton, New Jersey, is simply too boring a place to be.</p>
<p>Well, the 'emphasis on undergrad education' at Princeton is not a myth at all. I'm acquainted with a few Princeton alumni (recent graduates) who can personally attest to the quality of the education they received at Princeton, which was simply top-notch. </p>
<p>It depends on the kind of environment you prefer, really. I personally do not like to live in/too near big places like Cambridge, so Princeton is a better fit for me since it is located in the suburbs. </p>
<p>You may want to look at the course offerings at both places to see whether there are any particular courses that interest you. You cannot go wrong by choosing either of these schools.</p>
<p>Would someone be willing to dig up statistics on the percentage of each graduating class that goes into medicine, law, business, etc. at Harvard and Princeton? If these numbers are significantly different at the two schools, then that is something to consider when making the feeder comparison. Just a thought.</p>
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Extremely unlikely. Grad schools classify their students based on their undergraduate institution, not by where they got their extension school diploma.
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<p>Actually, no. People are, for just about all prctical purposes, classified based on the institution at which they earned their highest degree. That is why Harvard University is singnificantly different than Harvard College. Now, I don't doubt that some, maybe most, of the Harvard University people on that lists attended Harvard College. But definately not all of them. Same goes for Stanford and Yale.</p>
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<p>Nope. As can see from the very title, Harvard Law School classifies them based on their UNDERGRADUATE institutions and not on where they may have obtained any advanced degrees:</p>
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<a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/colleges.php</a></p>
<p>There are 241 Harvard College graduates at Harvard Law in 2006-2007 year, compared to just 54 from Princeton, 113 from Yale, and 79 from Stanford.</p>
<p>The picture is similar at Harvard Medical and Harvard Business Schools.</p>
<p>I might also mention that Yale Law School has more Harvard College graduates than Yale College graduates, making it the most represented undergraduate institution. There are 89 Harvard College grads at Yale Law compared to just 34 from Princeton, 42 from Stanford, and 86 from Yale College.
<a href="http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/bulletin/html/law/students.html</a>
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<p>Well, let's keep in mind that Harvard College has more undergrads than Yale College does.</p>
<p>This is a tough call. Both Harvard and Princeton are pretty versed at Business.</p>
<p>"Well, let's keep in mind that Harvard College has more undergrads than Yale College does."</p>
<p>Not that many more - 6700 at Harvard to 5300 at Yale.</p>
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"Well, let's keep in mind that Harvard College has more undergrads than Yale College does."</p>
<p>Not that many more - 6700 at Harvard to 5300 at Yale.
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<p>Enough to boost the figures of Yale undergrads who go to YLS to be higher than the Harvard undergrads, when calculated on a per-capita basis.</p>