<p>“2220 SAT score, average ECs, but great recs and essays”</p>
<p>[Looks around… points at self.]</p>
<p>“2220 SAT score, average ECs, but great recs and essays”</p>
<p>isn’t that the typical student usually accepted, considering they make up the majority of applicants? Again, a lot of them could be accepted, but again, a lot of them will be rejected.</p>
<p>OP: did your gc say what the adcom meant by “modest” scores? 2220 cannot be modest by adcoms, just by overachieving cc kids.</p>
<p>AnnaSmith- No, she didn’t. I honestly used 2220 as an example, but I assume by modest he meant like high 2100s - low 2200s. As you said, the double-edged sword of being a typical applicant is the “crapshoot” of admissions, but I’m guessing the adcoms are starting to put more thought into it…</p>
<p>The sample size may be too small in the mathacle analysis, and hence the only claim it made was that Yale won more cross-admits than in the past.</p>
<p>The only two I knew crossed by HY went to Yale last year. This year, three kids I know who got into Yale SCEA, one is the number one in school, the other two are legacies with moderate records. But all three of them need no finaid.</p>
<p>^^S was cross-admitted last year and also chose Yale.</p>
<p>Could you give me the reason why? As I understand that the removal of SCEA at HP will give an edge to Y.</p>
<p>ewho: </p>
<p>It was a very difficult decision, but after doing visits, compiling detailed lists of criteria, and networking with students and professors at both schools, he chose Yale, which had been his first choice from the beginning. </p>
<p>No place is perfect, and there were certainly several “slots” that Harvard appeared to fill better for him. Then there’s that prestige thing. But in the end, you gather as much information as you can, and then you have to go with your gut. Too many students at H, especially first-year boys, seemed slightly flattened by their experience, and that made him uneasy. He believed he’d have a better experience at Yale, and in the end that mattered deeply to him.</p>
<p>Sorry to be so blunt, but this is probably the dumbest thread I’ve ever read on CC. Do you really think that with a ~7% acceptance rate that “mediocrity” is valued over “excellence”? COME ON!</p>
<p>Yale is not that concerned about their yield rate. The ONLY school that Yale loses the cross-admit war is to Harvard, and the split is probably about 60/40 (i.e. H gets 6, Y gets 4 out of every 10 cross-admits). Moreover, Yale maintains the same SAT range as H so your thesis that they selectively look for lower SAT’s makes no sense whatsoever.</p>
<p>What might Yale do? They might look for students who have personalities in addition to numbers or who fit the culture well. This means that they may reject 2300’s fairly often in lieu of 2200’s w/ great essays, teacher recs, ECs, etc. But Harvard does this too, and Yale is certainly NOT looking for mediocre applicants.</p>
<p>I know that you may be nervous heading into Weds, but your statement is simply not correct.</p>
<p>^ that is a good choice
your son is a true Yalie. He knows what is good.</p>
<p>@ onthebrink’s question on the last page.</p>
<p>Neither Harvard nor Princeton have EA, so how is Yale supposed to know which school you like more? I guarantee you TONS of kids with Harvard as their top choice applied to Yale SCEA.</p>
<p>Anyway, I desperately hope this hearsay evidence is at least partially true. I definitely consider myself “above average.” I mean, I’ve got a 2270, 800 Lit, 740 Math II, 3.98 UW at an incredibly tough school (I’m vallie, because no one has a 4.0)…good ECs…great essays (IMO, obviously). Anyway, if what the OP is saying holds true, I feel good about my chances.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it’s most likely not true, lol.</p>
<p>P.S. @goldenratiphi: “Maybe my SATs were too high, or maybe my EC’s were too good.”
ahahahahaha I can totally picture that. A million threads with the title: “Was I Overqualified For Yale?”
LMAO</p>
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<p>The ONLY school that Yale loses the cross-admit war is to Harvard,…</p>
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<p>Don’t be so sure. Last year, Stanford and Yale had crossed 160. 80 went to Yale, and 80 went to Stanford.</p>
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<p>This is ludicrous. Afraid due to the yield because of the economy? The HYP financial aid is the best in the world! Unless they think that HYPS cross-admits are going to have a mass exodus to their safeties (great top publics, but still), this claim doesn’t make sense. And the only people who would be fleeing would be those just outside of the $200k income cap who lost a ton of money in the market… and this is neither a large subset of people or one that is disproportionately attracted to Yale. I don’t think the economy will decrease the yield at all, and will likely be insignificant in terms of attracting cross-admits.</p>
<p>Yale also has the third-highest yield in the country, only behind Harvard and Stanford. And I think it’s a fair assumption that Stanford kids are a little out of the Ivy League competition circle and have fewer Ivy cross admits than HY, so you could argue that Stanford’s yield doesn’t necessarily represent that they’re more attractive to cross-admits than Yale anyway (Y v. S is usually pretty even).</p>
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<p>These kinds of kids have been a valuable subset of students at Yale and other top schools for years. I don’t necessarily think that this group is growing. Perhaps the aforementioned personal qualities have a higher emphasis across the board this year, but the dramatic difference in admission rates for Yale SCEA that CC collected for 2300+ versus 2200s shows that SAT scores still correlate with admissions unless you’re a minority/athlete/etc. </p>
<p>I think that this claim is being misinterpreted. Yale does not consider itself second-rate, and is enjoying a wave of being the “hip Ivy” with the proliferation of the “cult of Yale” as well as publicity on Gilmore Girls, Gossip Girl, etc. They also are benefiting in terms of yield from HP dropping EA. If they’re taking kids with 2200-range SAT scores, it is because they demonstrate extraordinary intellectual ability/passion/voice/etc., not because they are terrified of the Big Harvard taking all the geniuses away. That’s absurd.</p>
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<p>That’s interesting. Did Stanford release that data?</p>
<p>Let us not forget that Yale has a reputation to keep.
Yale is a better school than Harvard (aka the h), hands down.
I mean, if you are looking for a school that will prepare you for post college and still make you smile, look to Yale. </p>
<p>Therefore Yale can pick the students that they want.
The h, on the other hand, has to look for THE STRONGEST people out there!
So they pick wild and overachieveing students who get depressed and complain all day.
That does not help at all.
I read on the h (harvard) forum that the dean of admissions said he could randomly pick any 1600 students and they would be qualified. Nonesense!</p>
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<p>I can vouch for this, I read your essays and in all honesty I wasn’t surprised you got into Duke.</p>
<p>^ Wow, thanks! You have no idea how much that compliment means to me, man 
Whatever the male version of “the warm fuzzies” is…I just got it haha</p>
<p>wjb – yes. If you search mathacle, you will find the link.</p>
<p>I also don’t think there are less crossed between Stanford and HYP Last year, YS were not sure and was cautious. This year they should know what to do. HYPSM will heavily cross-admit MANY this year. I have already seen so many on CC now.</p>
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<p>Oh my gosh that really made me LAUGH OUT LOUD!</p>
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<p>Those accomplishments (except quite possibly a chance to be a Presidential scholar, which is solely based on SAT score) do not go hand in hand with test scores.</p>
<p>I know students with higher SAT scores than me, and I have a higher class rank and more leadership positions than they do, to name a few advantages. Doesn’t mean they aren’t wonderful, but an SAT score is just that- an SAT score. It’s up to the person to take it beyond that.</p>
<p>Guys, look at the title of this thread. Think about it for a minute. Think about Yale’s 7% acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Now, log off CC and have some ice cream.</p>