Beware: ED at Penn

<p>Redcomet, I think you are right in that equation</p>

<p>wow, i can't believe this thread is still open.</p>

<p>early decision contracts are binding in the sense that any regular decision offers are supposed to be rescinded upon the granting of an early decision acceptance. nobody gets sued, and financial aid insufficiency is usually a perfectly viable reason for leaving an early decision contract.</p>

<p>this particular case is an unfortunate anomaly, but the message for the rest of applicants is clear: first, read the fine print to an early decision contract, just as you would any other important document, before you sign it. second, only apply ED to a school that you want to attend with all your heart. third, research all the schools to which you apply as thoroughly as possible.</p>

<p>i hope this gets closed now, or people stop replying, since there's nothing more to debate.</p>

<p>bump . </p>

<p>good thread.</p>

<p>There is always more to debate</p>

<p>I do have to agree with some early responders, because it is a basic element of contract law in regards to personal service contracts (to the extent this can be construed as such) that the breached party cannot in effect force the breaching party to follow the contract -which in this case would require the student to (in effect) be made to attend Penn against their will.</p>

<p>The supposed statement made by the Dean simply is not credible. Either the story is made-up or the poster is leaving out or misinterpreting what actually occured </p>

<p>While these (binding) ED arrangements are in the nature of a mutually agreed legal contract, it is well known that the ultimate enforcement/punishment/damages mechanisms available for use by a particular college - should the student not carry out their obligations - is very limited, and this is partly due to (among other factors) anti-trust issues</p>

<p>Since there is an element of honor in these contracts, dishonorable people simply should never sign one. </p>

<p>Someone mentioned the minor issue as possbly relevant, however the parents are generally made a party to these agreements, and in practical terms are not judgement proof or legally incapable of contracting - so in (theory at least) colleges if they could prove damages -they would be at risk</p>

<p>If this is true, the girl is a certifiable idiot. Amazing she got into Penn in the first place.</p>

<p>Uhm... Duh?</p>

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<p>Your stats make want to gawk with incredulity, as well as punch you in the face. And those are very good signs indeed!</p>

<p>Ohhhhhhhhh..... I should let you know!</p>

<p>Penn called her at Wisconsin. They had a long chat. She's being forced to transfer! She will be a student at Penn at year's end.</p>

<p>Do not apply ED here unless you really know it's the school for you!</p>

<p>"She's being forced to transfer!"</p>

<p>-Not only unethical, but seemingly illegal… </p>

<p>More lies.... :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Yeah... i'm making this up...</p>

<p>A Northwestern student should be smarter than this.</p>

<p>OH NOES she's forced to go to PENN!!!! A truly heartbreaking moment in the young woman's life for sure.</p>

<p>"Yeah... i'm making this up...</p>

<p>A Northwestern student should be smarter than this."</p>

<p>-What you are saying seems highly unlikely, and to me, just downright illegal. How in the world is Penn going to make a random girl transfer? Even more importantly, why would it care to do so? Is this girl a billionaire? Will the school in some way benefit from “forcing” her to attend. Tell me, what “force” does the admission office have to make people transfer?.</p>

<p>Benefits? Their diversity numbers increase as she is a minority. They get more $$$ as she didn't qualify for financial aid, meaning around 44K/year. Their ED numbers get closer to 100%.</p>

<p>Force? They will get her kicked out of her current school. They would contact them, let them know of the situation, and try to get the school to oblige. She applied ED. She said "I will come here if admitted". She signed a contract, and didn't live up to her promise.</p>

<p>By the way, after a recent conversation, she told me that Penn is fining her if she doesn't attend. Can they legally do that?</p>

<p>Stop with your nonsense. Just stop already…</p>

<p>I heard she was sentenced to 10-15 years, but that she's eligible for parole in four.</p>

<p>"DOG" the BOUNTY HUNTER gets alot of U Penn work</p>

<p>Lol.............</p>